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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: shakta]
    #1671619 - 06/29/03 04:15 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Card: Mr. President, the second tower has been hit. America is under attack.
Bush: Oh, ok.
Bush: So kids, where were we? Oh yeah, Billy the Goat was looking for a cool place to sleep.......

You find that acceptable?

I don't think he should have shot down every plane like you said, but fighter jets should have been up the ass of both planes that had veered off course and shut off their communication.




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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: shakta]
    #1671626 - 06/29/03 04:17 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Dude, the fighter jets sat on the ground for over half an hour doing nothing, after Bush knew. Before that they were on the ground for about half an hour after NORAD knew. Why were they not scrambled? Why were the people who supposedly are in charge of our country so complacent - or alternatively so scared - that they didn't think about going into "battle mode"? Why wasn't Bush whisked to an "operations room"? Where was Cheney? Presumably he knew what was going on too? Read the timelines, if you haven 't, and then come back to me on the NORAD question.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1671643 - 06/29/03 04:32 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

I am sick of this argument. You win. Our President is in with Ossama, and they are going to divide up the land and oil after this is all over.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: shakta]
    #1671655 - 06/29/03 04:40 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Nobody is saying that. Just look at the evidence and then tell us that everything took place appropriately, given the emergency situation.





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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1671663 - 06/29/03 04:49 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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I am sick of this argument. You win. Our President is in with Ossama, and they are going to divide up the land and oil after this is all over.




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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1671680 - 06/29/03 04:58 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm 46. I been disillusioned. Then I grew up.


wow, you're so old and wise.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Learyfan]
    #1671704 - 06/29/03 05:11 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

The hope has turned to pity.....you are getting desperate.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: 1stimer]
    #1671755 - 06/29/03 05:38 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm 46. I been disillusioned. Then I grew up.


wow, you're so old and wise.



Thank you.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1672048 - 06/29/03 08:50 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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The hope has turned to pity.....you are getting desperate.






And you're avoiding the issue. The gulf of tonkin was as the media presented it at the time, right? Roosevelt didn't know an attack was coming on Pearl Harbor, right?

These people are playing geopolitics - they may still have good aims. But why is it inconveivable to you that you might be being lied to?

Address the issue here - there's a set of inconsistencies which have led many reasonable people to question the official story. If you believe the official story, then please address these inconsistencies so that we can all have more peaceful minds. But don't say that questioning the inconsistencies is desperate, or wrong. The people are supposed to watch the government - questioning *is* patriotism. Patriotism is *not* marching in lockstep with the official story - that's called *nationalism*.



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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1672243 - 06/29/03 10:21 PM (18 years, 5 months ago)

all that i know about this whole situation i learned from this thread... that said heres my take on it. i dont have any oppinion about weather or not bush is evil, knew about 911 ahead of time or is goin to split up the land with osama bin laden (or if i do, thats not the point of my reply)
what i do know is
1. it is really, really fucked up that our president would show no response to news that is essentially the biggest event to happen in america in living memory. it is really fucked up that that guy only took 3 seconds to whisper in his ear. what can you say in 3 seconds? 'george, towers fell' maybe, or 'hundreds dead' perhaps. if he did say something to this effect our nations leader should have done something. how does he go from ignoring the thing while it happens to making it his biggest priority after the fact? when you think about this it just doesnt make sense. I know i said that i had no oppinion on this but ive changed my own mind. What the real explanation is i dont know, but it really makes more sense to me that bush did know about this ahead of time, because he did nothing to take out the other airplanes (which could have avoided much of the death) and then afterwards he uses the fear and anger caused by this event to launch military campaigns first in afghanistan then in iraq, always using buzzwords about terrorism, ossama and weapons of mass destruction, axis of evil, etc, to justify his actions in foreign countries... whatever, theres smarter people on this thread than me who can say it better... but it just doesnt add up, or if it does its in extremely scary ways.

My OTHER point is that shakta, much as i respect your political beliefs, trust in george etc, you really ahve been more or less ignoring most of the questions posed to you/ arguments given to you.. your responses are often short and angry and dont adress the issues raised. You havent really commented on the topic of this thread at all except when you say 'this is bullshit' or 'your worse of than i thought'.. it just doesnt support your position when you make short sighted comments that attack others and there oppinions without backing it up at all. ive been reading your dialogue back and forth with the other sides and they say over and over again 'address this issue, what about this?' and you say 'im sick of this, this thread is dumb, this is bullshit' and then once 'i like bush, hes doing great, i hope he gets reelected" fuck man


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: PHARMAKOS]
    #1673331 - 06/30/03 07:53 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: somebodyelse]
    #1673343 - 06/30/03 08:04 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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And you're avoiding the issue. The gulf of tonkin was as the media presented it at the time, right? Roosevelt didn't know an attack was coming on Pearl Harbor, right?




I'll make you a deal, stay on topic and i'll respond in kind.

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These people are playing geopolitics - they may still have good aims. But why is it inconveivable to you that you might be being lied to?




why is it inconceivable to you that you might be being told the truth?

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Address the issue here




I have, and i'm beginning to pity your ilk.

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there's a set of inconsistencies which have led many reasonable people to question the official story.




keep telling youself that, it'll make you feel better.

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But don't say that questioning the inconsistencies is desperate, or wrong.




I'll say what i want. For further clearification i'm accusing your ilk of being pityful. Your inconsistancies are nothing more than desperate people grasping at straws. Just aboot everything i have seen would barely amount to circumstantial evidence if even that. It's pathetic really and quite sad.

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The people are supposed to watch the government - questioning *is* patriotism. Patriotism is *not* marching in lockstep with the official story - that's called *nationalism*.




Why are you babbling this to me? I know this, what i'm saying is that you people are just grasping at straws. I have no problem with people questioning the government, in fact i'm a proponant of it, but please, this is just desperation. You probably think that Bush stole the election with help from the Aliens.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: PHARMAKOS]
    #1673349 - 06/30/03 08:07 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i dont think that it proves anything but it should be explained by bush.but we cant ask him.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1673354 - 06/30/03 08:12 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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You probably think that Bush stole the election with help from the Aliens. 



Well.... he did kill off the dinosaurs, assasinate Lincoln and start the slave trade.

:smirk:


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1673365 - 06/30/03 08:20 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

i heard he had 5 slaves locked in the Lincoln bedroom. :grin:


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1673367 - 06/30/03 08:21 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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Innvertigo said:
i heard he had 5 slaves locked in the Lincoln bedroom. :grin: 



That Bastard!

I bet he killed Kenny also!


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #1673377 - 06/30/03 08:27 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Don't listen to them. Innvertigo and LTS lost all credibility when they said that the drug war should be ended.

What would Bush think if he heard them say some radical shit like that?





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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Learyfan]
    #1673381 - 06/30/03 08:29 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

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What would Bush think if he heard them say some radical shit like that?



Probably nothing.


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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1673391 - 06/30/03 08:35 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

You've got me there. Bush probably doesn't think anything. I meant would would he "say".






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Re: 5-Minute Video of George W. Bush on the Morning of 9-11 [Re: Learyfan]
    #1673396 - 06/30/03 08:39 AM (18 years, 5 months ago)

Same answer.


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