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NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war * 5
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The US and NATO have shown tremendous aggression towards Russia recently, and it's one of the reasons I now dislike Obama and why I can't vote for Hillary.  Putin is trying to get the message out to reporters who will listen, but most ignore him.

Mainstream media won't cover things like this, but here it is for Shroomites that have an interest in world events.



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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
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Agree to what you said, thoug I trust in Putins abilty to handle the situation with his cold rationalism.


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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: hayabuser]
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Sounds like the two of you would enjoy a nice -40 degree prison cell in Siberia.

Russia feels threatened by the west producing missile shields.  The anti-missile missile's are said to actually intercept %50 of the time.  Basically Russia doesn't like their ability to launch an attack being diminished.  The best defense is a good offense and vice versa.

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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Morel Guy] * 3
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Have you ever heard of the terms "balance of power" and "mutually assured destruction"?  That's kept the peace for many, many years.

If Russia believes that at some point soon it will no longer be able to defend itself from the west, it could become dangerous before it lets that happen...

Why is so important for the US to surround Russia's borders, as it does today?  How would the US feel if Russia put massive numbers of troops in Mexico?  :shrug:


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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Morel Guy] * 4
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Morel Guy said:
Sounds like the two of you would enjoy a nice -40 degree prison cell in Siberia.

Russia feels threatened by the west producing missile shields.  The anti-missile missile's are said to actually intercept %50 of the time.  Basically Russia doesn't like their ability to launch an attack being diminished.  The best defense is a good offense and vice versa.


Do you understand what a treaty is? Russia, NATO and the rest of the civilized world had multiple treaties to prevent the proliferation and geopolitical infringement of their respective countries onto eachother. The USA is violating 2 of these treaties aggressively and without cause. The US is the belligerent in this situation. Enough so that were the roles reversed there would be a deceleration of war. The establishment of the united states, the part of it thats in control and unaffected by elections is playing a dangerous game by continually ramping up aggression's, and its a game that has no winners.

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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
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:thumbup:

Bodhi of Ankou said:
The US is the belligerent in this situation. Enough so that were the roles reversed there would be a deceleration of war.


Exactly.  The US wouldn't tolerate this behavior nearly as well as Russia has.


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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 3
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This thread is exactly on point so far. :thumbup:


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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Why wouldn't I understand what a treaty is?  The constitution is a treaty between the Government and the people, they violate that all the time.  Also there have been many treaties broken with Native Americans.  So why would the US Governments word be worth a shit?

I believe the only treaty violation is with the missile defense system.  If there are others please be so kind to share.

What Russia and China have going for them are numbers of people and cheap easily produced weapons.

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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Morel Guy]
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Morel Guy said:
why would the US Governments word be worth a shit?


Do you think it's ok for the US to ignore international treaties?


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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Morel Guy said:
why would the US Governments word be worth a shit?


Do you think it's ok for the US to ignore international treaties?


I say yes if I actually get to have a say, a voice and a chance.  Some treaties shouldn't be fucked with like green treaties.  I am sure you,would say fuck ya to the US bailing on narcotic treaties and legalizing all the goodies?

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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Morel Guy] * 2
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I'm all for mutually agreed to narcotic treaty amendments, but I'm against blatant violation of international treaties.  If the US doesn't follow international treaties, how can we expect other countries to?


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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Douglas Howard] * 1
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Alex Jones is a sensationalist and conspiracy nut, but the majority of the video above is fairly reasonable.  :thumbup:


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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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This is something I read a few days ago, https://theintercept.com/2016/07/01/nato-general-emails/



the emails show Nato generals were more interested in starting a proxy war thru ukraine than to find a peaceful resolution.


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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: airclay]
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Gotta feed the military industrial complex.


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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Alex Jones is a sensationalist and conspiracy nut, but the majority of the video above is fairly reasonable.  :thumbup:


Is he translating the words that Putin is saying? Remember there is Russians on this forum.

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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Douglas Howard]
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I'm think the translation was accurate.


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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
I'm think the translation was accurate.


And so what is so bad about Alex Jones letting people to know what Putin wants us to know that our media isn't unveiling to us?

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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Douglas Howard]
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Proxy wars are the smart way to bleed your enemy in a 'cold conflict'.  Or would you rather see fighting on your own street?

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Re: NATO is pushing the world towards nuclear war [Re: Morel Guy] * 2
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Where is the box for "no fighting"?


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