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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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luvdemshrooms said:
do you really see it happening?

Not me. Not in this lifetime.

It's good to dream though.


...,but its better to be blind eh? (in canadian accent)


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Lest we forget. "

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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: d33p]
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WE FIRE BOMBED JAP CITIES WITH NAPALM KILLING HUNDREADS OF THOUSANDS BEFORE WE DROPPED THE A-BOMBS. We would have done the same before 1945 to soften up for the invasion. MILLIONS WOULD HAVE DIED IN AN INVASION. Why cant you understand this.



so we killed 200000 people to keep us from killing millions more. sounds like the us is the crazy onet that is the kill happy machine to me.


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ash dingy donker mo gollyhopper patty popiton rockstop bueno mayo riggedy jig bobber johnathan pattywhacker gogboob t-shirt monkey.

There is such emotion in the distortion.

Edited by 1stimer (08/07/03 08:05 PM)

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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: Azmodeus]
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Canadas secret weapon..

The bear will fear



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America....FUCK YEAH!!!

Words of Wisdom: Individual Rights BEFORE Collective Rights

"The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." -- Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: 1stimer]
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Stop posting stupid remarks. The japs would have killed invading americans and vice versa. America saved many lives by dropping the bombs.


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: d33p]
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d33p said:
MILLIONS WOULD HAVE DIED IN AN INVASION.  Why cant you understand this. 

An argument was made to drop the first atomic bomb into Tokyo Bay in the late evening where millions could have witnessed the explosion, without as many casualties.  If this failed to force a surrender, then 2nd atomic bomb would have been dropped on a city.  But the possibility of destroying no cities was overruled by the decision to destroy two cities.  :devil: 


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: d33p]
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why didnt we drop small nukes on iraq or in vietnam?


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: Cornholio]
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Did they srop both bombs at the same time no. They gave them ample time in which to respond. They still did not surrender. A viewing would have been unlikely to cause them to surrender. Read what was posted before on this subject.

And from the kind of distance they would have had to drop the bomb so radiation wouldnt hit the mainland is a fair distance. They would hear a loud report and maybe would have seen a water spout. Nothing as effective as destroying a whole city.

Maybe we should have sent them tapes :/


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: Innvertigo]
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Innvertigo said:
Canadas secret weapon..

The bear will fear

 


:shocked:...thats classified!!! :mad:
Dem ground squirles are nasty lil buggers...they'll sneak right into yer tent , if your not careful...and eat anything they can...
My dog loves em!


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: 1stimer]
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1stimer said:
why didnt we drop small nukes on iraq or in vietnam?


They're still workin on em...i think...


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: 1stimer]
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we did they are called daisy cutters and boy did they work scared those little vcs shitless. And btw if you dont know daisy cutters are not nuclear but are large enough to seem simmilar.


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: 1stimer]
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"We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
- Unknown Lieutenant during the Vietnam War

This seems to be a favoured form of logic with US forces.


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
:tongue:

In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.

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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: Azmodeus]
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Azmodeus said:
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Edame said:

Whitey's always keepin 'em down. 



I bet the other seals won't get eaten now.  They've seen what the bear can do....its natural instinct. :smirk: 


The point that seems to elude some on this board is that if an animal is AWARE of danger it will avoid it.  Of course if you think that  the Japanese people are intellectually inferior to the average wild animal and hence lack the capacity to recognize danger and avoid it, the opposing point would make sense - it would also make you a racist (However, I do not believe that this is the case). 


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: Autonomous]
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Maybe it would, but I don't see anyone saying or implying anything remotely like that.


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
:tongue:

In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.

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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: Edame]
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"America sucks donkey balls, i eat poo, and i love to harrass little boys and blah blah blah"
-some unknown libbie


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: Edame]
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Edame said:
"We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
- Unknown Lieutenant during the Vietnam War

This seems to be a favoured form of logic with US forces.


"Your either with us or against us..."

-george bush jr


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: d33p]
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The difference being that you can type the quote I used into google and see thousands of websites all making reference to it.


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
:tongue:

In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.

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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: Edame]
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Whos to say you cant with with mine? lol

and i wouldnt be suprised that even if that quote is true it would have been taken out of context.


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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: d33p]
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I think that it's doublespeak anyway, to me it makes about as much sense as a Doctor saying "We had to kill the patients to save the patients".


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The above is an extract from my fictional novel, "The random postings of Edame".
:tongue:

In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.

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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Baby_Hitler said:
GernBlanston said:
There's an easy solution to that, you know, don't you?

Get rid of em. All of em. Ours, theirs, the little ones, the big ones, the ones on ships and in silos and in subs and in briefcases. All of them. Make them go away, and make it against global law to ever build or otherwise posess a nuclear weapon again.

Simple, no?


I think it would take more than that. I think we would have to mine all the fissionable material out of the earth's crust and shoot it all into space.


Well, I was being a bit purposefully simplistic there...

But that said, I think you may underestimate the complexity of converting raw materials into usable fissionable material. For example, N. Korea has had nuclear reactors in operation for over 30 years now - and with that, ample access to raw nuclear reactive material. In all that time, they have only been able to harvest enough usable material for 6 weapons (this is a current guesstimate - I've heard as few as 3 and as many as 6).

I think that if we had people who meant it, it would actually be extremely easy to rid the planet of all of them. Of course, therein lies the problem, eh?


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There is no flag large enough to cover the shame of killing innocent people.
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Re: Hiroshima mayor says world moving to war... [Re: GernBlanston]
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D33p: you arent very intelligent are you? until you prove that your brain is functional enough to understand simple concepts and questions, then I will not reply to your posts. not that you care....but you have been forwarned.

The US could have easily won the war without the use of nuclear bombs, the war may have gone on longer, but a few thousand lives of american and japanese soldiers are definitly worth hundreds of thousands of innocent lives.



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