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RanOutOfWeed
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Feminists 2
#22025793 - 07/31/15 07:16 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Do you avoid women who call themselves "feminists". I find them to be highly annoying and often project a very masculine energy that is a major turn off.
I assume they look for men who are major betas and want to be her butler/ gay male girlfriend. 
They tell you they are feminists because they want equal rights and an equal status in society, yet do not consider that men and women are totally different creatures.
If you want to be a man hating lesbian then by all means be one. Don't beat around the bush and torture the poor betas
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No I just avoid women in general, but I support the cause of feminism from a political and social standpoint. I'll admit I haven't spent much time cultivating my personality through the lens of wolf-pack terminology. I think that is more appropriate when describing the way canine relationships work, but humans are much more complex and capable of using subversive tactics in place of brute force.
I just don't find stereotypical macho men to be that arousing or think that sort of behavior is necessary to further out species at this juncture in history. Most who strive to be alpha do so because they feel they have lost something by assimilating with the modern world, but the fact is things do change. I prefer to pass on my genes by sneaking into other more masculine men's rooms at night and injecting my own sperm into their dickhole, so that when they fuck their wife in a way that leaves them unsatisfied they end up taking care of my kids for me.
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RanOutOfWeed
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That escalated quickly
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Re: Feminists [Re: Lucis]
#22025922 - 07/31/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't have a problem with true feminism or women who identify themselves as such. I do dislike it if they are aggressive with their opinions, just like any ideologue
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Sort of like guys (and some gals) who just bring up how much they hate feminism out of the blue like their personal feelings regarding feminists are more valid and important than what feminists have been claiming they are about since before they called it feminism?
I guess that's not aggressive, more whiny, but I pick up alot of hypo-criticism from most anti-feminists I encounter.
Edited by moonrockmushy (07/31/15 08:00 PM)
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feminists suck
they are completely delusional
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RanOutOfWeed said: Do you avoid women who call themselves "feminists". I find them to be highly annoying and often project a very masculine energy that is a major turn off.
I assume they look for men who are major betas and want to be her butler/ gay male girlfriend. 
they actually seek out assholes that will boss them around and treat them like dirt when they arent busy dyking out and being stare raped
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They tell you they are feminists because they want equal rights and an equal status in society, yet do not consider that men and women are totally different creatures.
no, they tell you they're feminists because they're obnoxious cunts that want to feel like they belong to something important, they just dont realize that feminism isnt important to anyone but them which is why they come up with even more outlandish claims for they attention whoring bitches that they are
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If you want to be a man hating lesbian then by all means be one. Don't beat around the bush and torture the poor betas
the betas do it to themselves, that's why they're beta
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I'm just gonna go ahead and ignore most of the boneheaded posts in here and see if anyone actually wants to talk about this.
I support equal rights for men and women, but I acknowledge that there are real differences between the sexes. We're never going to have wage parity or even political parity because women are inherently less likely to be the personality type that gains power/money than men are. Women are not as aggressive or assertive as a general rule.
I appreciate honest feminists, but I think most turn it into an emotional argument rather than a logical one.
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Re: Feminists [Re: Patlal]
#22026061 - 07/31/15 08:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's a fair point that in many situations there are much more important things than gender that cause unneeded divides and hostility between people, and some feminists could definitely take that into account, but that doesn't change the fact that there are cases where women are mistreated and that treatment is justified by cultural standards that show disfavor to women.
Are there situations where men are mistreated due to cultural standards? Sure. Feminism addresses that but in a way that takes in many different perspectives not only "that is the way it was, that is the way it should be". To say that the whole legacy of feminism is a dishonest attempt to elevate women into a position above men is a huge slap in the face to the entire civil rights movement, and the women who have benefited from that.
I cannot imagine a world where many women are basically expected to be domestic slaves solely because they are women, so I am thankful to feminism for that. I think there are things we still need to work on which I doubt will ever be fully solved as long as we are human, but I don't go around yelling to everyone about feminism because pretty much every educated person agrees with me on all this even if they'll rail on feminism now and then.
Sure the fantasy of submissive women is nice, but to be honest I have no patience for weak simpletons I want my women to be as strong as they can possibly be. I am firmly against human slavery, which sounds obvious like of course we can all agree on that, but human slavery does exist and one of the main things keeping it going is men who think it is ok to exploit women or children because they can. It's one thing to engage in fantasy or consensual role play, but I just can't respect anyone who wants to ignore that problem and pretend like women aren't abused in this world. I'd never let the fact that some feminists are obnoxious and belligerent make me oppose feminism as a whole as long as women anywhere in the world continue to be treated as sub-human.
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What do you think about the feminists who constantly rail against misogyny in media?
It seems like every debate I have with a feminists, at some point they talk about how popular music and movies all degrade women, and that is the basis for social norms that hurt women. Personally I find that I can (and do) hugely enjoy and appreciate rap and movies with seductive women, and still respect women as individuals.
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Re: Feminists [Re: bm0322] 1
#22026097 - 07/31/15 08:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bm0322 said: What do you think about the feminists who constantly rail against misogyny in media?
It seems like every debate I have with a feminists, at some point they talk about how popular music and movies all degrade women, and that is the basis for social norms that hurt women. Personally I find that I can (and do) hugely enjoy and appreciate rap and movies with seductive women, and still respect women as individuals.
What do feminists say when men and fathers are portrayed as the dumbest character in every TV show? Not a word.
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Re: Feminists [Re: qman]
#22026107 - 07/31/15 08:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Agreed. When I bring that up, their response is that men are not systematically oppressed the way women are.
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Re: Feminists [Re: bm0322]
#22026108 - 07/31/15 08:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't really encounter that too often to be honest, certainly not IRL at least. I tend to assume it is mostly blown out of proportion, but then again I don't have a tumblr, facebook, or twitter account so maybe I am just out of touch. Whenever I have sought out a credible and thoughtful feminist viewpoint on a gender-related subject I was interested in I have not had a problem finding it.
If you want to give me a specific issue and I can show you that there is a genuine and well thought out side to feminism I will do my best, but I find very few people here actually want to talk about positive aspects of feminism. I'm perfectly fine letting the subject rest, but I don't like to see people trash it as if it were something that wasn't good about our culture overall.
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Re: Feminists [Re: bm0322]
#22026140 - 07/31/15 08:51 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay fair enough. Do you agree that affirmative action policies for women in typically male-dominated fields such as finance, computer science, economics, etc, are a good thing for society?
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Re: Feminists [Re: bm0322]
#22026150 - 07/31/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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They tend to interfere too much with making sandwiches
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Re: Feminists [Re: bm0322]
#22026174 - 07/31/15 09:04 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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bm0322 said: Okay fair enough. Do you agree that affirmative action policies for women in typically male-dominated fields such as finance, computer science, economics, etc, are a good thing for society?
Again, I think they are probably blown out of proportion. Women are making more of an impact in some field than others, but I think overall there are not as many laws related to "affirmative action" as some people make out.
If someone feels this is an important issue I am open to consider a well thought out plan to empower women, but women have also made plenty of significant contributions on their own since way before I was born without any "affirmative action". Anyone who points to the existence of policies aimed at balancing gender inequalities to explain why there are women in the workplace is kidding themselves in my mind.
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