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Does black privilege exist? * 1
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Or is it a fantasy like the left would have us believe? Lets take a look at the facts. Did I just hear all the leftists groan? Yes, much as they hate facts they need to face them. Is black privilege real? First lets list the reasons why it is.

1. Affirmative action
2. Racial set asides
3. Quotas at colleges
4. Quotas imposed on business
5. Hate crime laws used virtually only on whites

That is a pretty damn strong argument in favor of black privilege. In fact it does seem to prove it since those programs both official and unofficial are known to exist. What can you left wingers tell us to establish the mythical white privilege? Where are the laws favoring whites?

White privilege = myth
Black privilege = fact


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge] * 4
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You got that ass ass ass ass backwards. What you list there are incentives intended to overcome the still existing disadvantage the black people have in society. Its a plaster cast for someone with a broken leg, not for someone whos medical situation os A OK.

You poor poor disadvataged little white boy, soo butthurt because he thinks others are getting handouts and he is left behind.

Want a handout kiddo, here, a +1, see theres your handout.





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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Asante]
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>What you list there are incentives intended to overcome the still existing disadvantage the black people have in society

Here is a question for you to run away from. What disadvantage? I made a compelling case for black privilege, a video of homo activity does not dispute any of it.

>Its a plaster cast for someone with a broken leg, not for someone whos medical situation os A OK.

I have more news for you, the handouts and preference go to ALL blacks and minorities, not for those with a broken leg. Are you going to tell us that what happened to someone's ancestors means they can't compete in today's world? If I find out one of my ancestors was a slave or was treated badly, does that hurt me today?

>You poor poor disadvataged little white boy,

Today I am Asian, tomorrow perhaps American indian. I won't be white until the weekend.

>he thinks others are getting handouts and he is left behind.

"thinks"? I am left behind by racist laws unless I claim some minority status.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge] * 1
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1 yet the supreme court has upheld it again and again, we've also been over this quite a bit in another thread.  can you backup your claim that AA is racism?  can you cite a source that doesn't go on to contradict your assertions?
2 helps make up for banks giving fewer loans to blacks
3 doesn't happen
4 doesn't happen in the private sector
5 maybe whites should quit committing so many hate crimes :shrug:

White privilege

1 more likely to be let on the bus for free
2 more likely to get called back on a job application
3 more likely to have benefited from inheriting property and wealth from ancestors and/or the FHA subsidies
4 less likely to be poor
5 more likely to be selected for a management position even when all other factors are equal
6 more likely to be approved for a home loan
7 shown more housing options
8 more likely to attend a good public school (relates to wealth and housing gaps)
9 more likely to afford a good private school
10 much easier to find beauty products

There's more but an even ten sounds nice.  Plus I figured you'd like 10 :laugh:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/24/opinion/research-shows-white-privilege-is-real.html?_r=0
http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
http://www.tolerance.org/article/racism-and-white-privilege


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To knock their fairy castles down?  ~ Eliza Cook

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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: paperbackwriter]
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paperbackwriter said:
White privilege

1 more likely to be let on the bus for free
2 more likely to get called back on a job application
3 more likely to have benefited from inheriting property and wealth from ancestors and/or the FHA subsidies
4 less likely to be poor
5 more likely to be selected for a management position even when all other factors are equal
6 more likely to be approved for a home loan
7 shown more housing options
8 more likely to attend a good public school (relates to wealth and housing gaps)
9 more likely to afford a good private school
10 much easier to find beauty products


It is not white people's fault that they are better looking, more likable, and have better genes.  It is also not people's fault for treating white people better.

If there are two girls, one is a super-hot blond and the other a mousy, insignificant, ugly even, girl.  When everything else being equal, which would you want to hire (if you are a business owner), and which one would you want to pull out all the stops to impress and maybe pursue (assuming your a male)?

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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: paperbackwriter]
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pbw, are you still denying that giving breaks and special handouts to certain races is not racism? Even most of the left agrees its racism but tries to justify it. Only the extreme, loony fringe tries to say it isn't. If it mandates special breaks to whites, would that be racist?

>3 doesn't happen (3. Quotas at colleges)

I knew you were dizzy but I thought you had some clue. Racial quotas at many universities are a well known subject, we've discussed it on the boards many times. Fail once again.

>4 doesn't happen in the private sector (4. Quotas imposed on business)

The private sector IS business and if they don't hire enough negroes or whatever group is "lacking" they get sued by the us dept of injustice and have to pay tons of money.

>5 maybe whites should quit committing so many hate crimes

Most hate crimes are committed by blacks or Hispanics. What do you think it was when the rioters went looking for whites to beat up and rob? Just having a little fun?

So on and so on. You are clearly incapable of carrying on any sort of rational discussion.

Wan, you are right of course.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
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^thanks stone

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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: paperbackwriter]
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paperbackwriter said:
1 yet the supreme court has upheld it again and again, we've also been over this quite a bit in another thread.  can you backup your claim that AA is racism?  can you cite a source that doesn't go on to contradict your assertions?
2 helps make up for banks giving fewer loans to blacks
3 doesn't happen
4 doesn't happen in the private sector
5 maybe whites should quit committing so many hate crimes :shrug:

White privilege

1 more likely to be let on the bus for free
2 more likely to get called back on a job application
3 more likely to have benefited from inheriting property and wealth from ancestors and/or the FHA subsidies
4 less likely to be poor
5 more likely to be selected for a management position even when all other factors are equal
6 more likely to be approved for a home loan
7 shown more housing options
8 more likely to attend a good public school (relates to wealth and housing gaps)
9 more likely to afford a good private school
10 much easier to find beauty products

There's more but an even ten sounds nice.  Plus I figured you'd like 10 :laugh:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/24/opinion/research-shows-white-privilege-is-real.html?_r=0
http://www.nber.org/papers/w9873
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_privilege
http://www.tolerance.org/article/racism-and-white-privilege


"more likely to be let on the bus for free"  :rofl2:

"much easier to find beauty products"  :rofl2:

Dude I have a serious question.  Are you black, or white?

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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
Or is it a fantasy like the left would have us believe? Lets take a look at the facts. Did I just hear all the leftists groan? Yes, much as they hate facts they need to face them. Is black privilege real? First lets list the reasons why it is.

1. Affirmative action
2. Racial set asides
3. Quotas at colleges
4. Quotas imposed on business
5. Hate crime laws used virtually only on whites

That is a pretty damn strong argument in favor of black privilege. In fact it does seem to prove it since those programs both official and unofficial are known to exist. What can you left wingers tell us to establish the mythical white privilege? Where are the laws favoring whites?

White privilege = myth
Black privilege = fact



Let's accept your premise that "black privilege" exists.
Now, a lot of folks believe that white privilege exists as well.
you contend that white privilege is a myth, so i ask you this sir:
If you had the option, would you relive your life up to this point as a black man instead of a white one?
after all, think of all the "black privilege" you could take advantage of.

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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: ballsalsa]
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ballsalsa said:
Stonehenge said:
Or is it a fantasy like the left would have us believe? Lets take a look at the facts. Did I just hear all the leftists groan? Yes, much as they hate facts they need to face them. Is black privilege real? First lets list the reasons why it is.

1. Affirmative action
2. Racial set asides
3. Quotas at colleges
4. Quotas imposed on business
5. Hate crime laws used virtually only on whites

That is a pretty damn strong argument in favor of black privilege. In fact it does seem to prove it since those programs both official and unofficial are known to exist. What can you left wingers tell us to establish the mythical white privilege? Where are the laws favoring whites?

White privilege = myth
Black privilege = fact



Let's accept your premise that "black privilege" exists.
Now, a lot of folks believe that white privilege exists as well.
you contend that white privilege is a myth, so i ask you this sir:
If you had the option, would you relive your life up to this point as a black man instead of a white one?
after all, think of all the "black privilege" you could take advantage of.


This one is a no-brainer.  I would most definitely want to be a white man instead of a black man, but this has nothing to do with black privileges or white privileges or whatever.  Being black simply sucks.  In fact I used to know this half-black, half-white kid, and he was suicidally depressed.  I am almost 100% sure that it was due to his black lineage.  If I were half-black (dont even need to be fully black), I would want to die, too.

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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: WAN] * 1
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Wan you should dress up your racism with more intellectual rhetoric like stonehenge does.

Saying stuff like:

Quote:
It is not white people's fault that they are better looking, more likable, and have better genes.  It is also not people's fault for treating white people better.


is just too obvious.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Asante]
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I mean what I say and I say what I mean.  I don't care if people think I am a troll or whatever.

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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Asante]
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So, asante, your racism is ok but other people's is not?


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: WAN] * 1
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Your point of view is racist.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
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i know you saw that post stoney.
answer the question please

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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said:
So, asante, your racism is ok but other people's is not?



Can you show on the dolly where I have been racist lately? In posts that dont hearken years back?


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Your point of view is racist.


so?

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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
Stonehenge said:
So, asante, your racism is ok but other people's is not?



Can you show on the dolly where I have been racist lately? In posts that dont hearken years back?


Lol, you have been over using the dolly nonsense for a while.

>In posts that dont hearken years back

Almost every post you support aa which is a racist policy. You support all racist policies that help negroes. You like those negro men don't you?


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
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First of all, I don't support affirmative action in the way it exists in the USA today.

What I DO support is a kind of action to be taken that allows for black people to rise beyond the point of disadvantage where it is now.

Your point of view about race is upside down Stonehenge. Its inverted. White people are not the disadvantaged ones and black people are not the privileged ones. You drank the kool aid dude, you fell for it. You are the red guy's henchman.



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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: WAN] * 2
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WAN said:
Asante said:
Your point of view is racist.


so?


you want to know why racism is bad?  It is bad because it promotes the idea that one group of humans is somehow lesser than another.  this leads some people to conclude that it is ok to treat one sub-group poorly compared to another(based on appearance).  This is a bad thing, because it leads to things like The American Civil War, and WW2.  It also leads to things like the Japanese internment camps here in the US during the war. It leads to pogroms and genocides, because after all, those people are inferior to these people, so that makes it ok.  Racism promotes violence by marginalizing the humanity of the victims.

but this thread isn't about the pros and con's of racism.  its about whether or not Blacks in america are a privileged people.
If you think they are, then go find some numbers to demonstrate it.
it still counts as your own argument, even if you use outside data to support it.

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