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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: WAN]
    #21890317 - 07/02/15 09:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Maturity is a very different measure than skin color, and no, teens should not be given the rights of an adult. Teens shouldn't be president of the united states, either.

Is your argument that black people are equivalent to teenagers on some level?

I don't 'cry that it's unfair', however, it is wrong to treat people differently on a racial basis.

Honestly, the white people I've known break laws equally if not more often than the black people I've known. Black folks are disproportionately stopped, searched, charged and imprisoned. Then you want to say 'see! They'z criminals!'. I watched it in my own neighborhood. My white friends would get piddly plea deals for MIP's, and my black friends would get long probationary periods, which led them to receive more trouble if they slipped up. My white friends also got offered deferments at a disproportionate frequency. I got searched more often growing up, when I was with my black friends.

This issue is so much deeper than you people realize. Actually, I think you are very well aware of how much you are oversimplifying it, but you have some urge to justify hate and bigotry. The 21st century will not be so kind to you as centuries passed.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #21890325 - 07/02/15 10:03 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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1 yet the supreme court has upheld it again and again, we've also been over this quite a bit in another thread.  can you backup your claim that AA is racism? 





I will repeat a post I just made elsewhere, just so you are aware, that when LBJ expanded affirmative action in 1965, he is also quoted as having said 'I'll have those n.....gers' voting democrat for the next 200 years'

There's the point of AA, exactly.  :smirk:


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21890345 - 07/02/15 10:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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1 yet the supreme court has upheld it again and again, we've also been over this quite a bit in another thread.  can you backup your claim that AA is racism? 





I will repeat a post I just made elsewhere, just so you are aware, that when LBJ expanded affirmative action in 1965, he is also quoted as having said 'I'll have those n.....gers' voting democrat for the next 200 years'

There's the point of AA, exactly.  :smirk:




I'm not denying that this was said, but I'd like to see a reference.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21890379 - 07/02/15 10:15 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

http://yourblackbloggers.net/2012/10/featured-blogger/ill-have-those-niggers-voting-democratic-for-the-next-200-years-lyndon-b-johnson/


just search bing or google, there are hundreds of references to that quote.  Of course you would never hear it in the mainstream.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21890460 - 07/02/15 10:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

That's funny, and certainly interesting.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21890464 - 07/02/15 10:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Sorry stoney, but I do have facts. I like being able to hail a cab easier than blacks, fact.




is that white privilege or is that experience, personal and anecdotal. what
percentage of cabbies are robbed by whites?


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I like seeing my race run the country I live in, fact. I like that I have wealthy relatives, and all of the benefits from that (which black folks generally don't have).




so all whites are wealthy and all blacks are poor?

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I like that I can go work in a machine shop full of 'good ol' boys' and as long as I keep my liberal views to myself, nobody will try to get me fired for my skin color, like a blacm person (I speak from experience).




so now you arent white, you're black, have you considered a job with the NAACP,
I hear they hire white black people... or is it black white people
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I like that police won't ever 'stop and frisk' me because of my skin color.





hahahaha... such horse shit, I've been through this hundreds of times and I
live in the south where the cops are supposed to be much more racist than
anywhere else in the nation


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I like that my race has been established as the standard for beauty in our society. I like that I don't lower property value just by living in certain neighborhoods. I like that if I were religious, I could go to church and not have my church shot up. I like that if I chase black pussy nobody bats an eye, or shows aggression toward me.

I could go on and on. These are facts, my friend.





no, these arent facts. this is just evidence of your own racism and your
bullshitting based of liberal talking points about discrimination


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21890471 - 07/02/15 10:38 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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http://yourblackbloggers.net/2012/10/featured-blogger/ill-have-those-niggers-voting-democratic-for-the-next-200-years-lyndon-b-johnson/


just search bing or google, there are hundreds of references to that quote.  Of course you would never hear it in the mainstream.





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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: starfire_xes]
    #21890513 - 07/02/15 10:44 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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1 yet the supreme court has upheld it again and again, we've also been over this quite a bit in another thread.  can you backup your claim that AA is racism? 





I will repeat a post I just made elsewhere, just so you are aware, that when LBJ expanded affirmative action in 1965, he is also quoted as having said 'I'll have those n.....gers' voting democrat for the next 200 years'

There's the point of AA, exactly.  :smirk:




since we are repeating posts from other threads now,

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wow, what a strategy, gain the blacks, and lose the white south.

http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html
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Black or African American alone, percent, 2013 (a) 13.2%




https://www.census.gov/popclock/data_tables.php?component=growth
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2014
Region Population Percentage
Northeast 56,152,333 17.6%
Midwest 67,745,108 21.2%
West 75,187,681 23.6%
South 119,771,934 37.6%







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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21890531 - 07/02/15 10:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I think you misunderstood my entire post. Your point about the NAACP was funny though ;-)


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21891308 - 07/03/15 04:02 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)



Stop it guys. This will end in people killing people.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Asante]
    #21892112 - 07/03/15 10:58 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

New question related to the OP. Does women's privilege exist?

They get quotas, set asides, and other special privileges.
They get reduced sentences for crimes compared to males.
They get the house, kids, child support, alimony etc in divorce.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21892299 - 07/03/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I believe women don't get drafted either, correct?


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Asante]
    #21892302 - 07/03/15 11:52 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Stop it guys. This will end in people killing people.




That's a nice looking bullet :eek:

Oh fuck... I think I'm turning into a Republican! >.<


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
    #21892334 - 07/03/15 11:59 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Theres nothing particularly Republican about appreciation of firearms. If my country had firearms laws I'd be a happy gun owner.

Guns are fun.



They also make a compelling argument against violent people who can't be reasoned with.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Asante]
    #21892370 - 07/03/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So, nobody has denied black privilege exists. No one denies women have privileges though both groups constantly demand more and more handouts, special favors, etc. Am I correct in assuming that I am right and silence from the left means consent?

In addition to not being drafted, and the other things I mentioned.

Women get fewer traffic tickets than men
Are murdered less often

Asante, where is your support for women's rights?


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Asante]
    #21892371 - 07/03/15 12:08 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't have any problem with guns, I just think people who are known to be violent or psychotic shouldn't have access to them. I also think parents of kids who get into their guns and shoot people should be charged with murder also. If guns are used responsibly, I have no problem.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21892382 - 07/03/15 12:13 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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So, nobody has denied black privilege exists. No one denies women have privileges though both groups constantly demand more and more handouts, special favors, etc. Am I correct in assuming that I am right and silence from the left means consent?

In addition to not being drafted, and the other things I mentioned.

Women get fewer traffic tickets than men
Are murdered less often

Asante, where is your support for women's rights?




Society has afforded some level of 'privilege' for black people, however, I do believe white privilege trumps black privilege. As I have stated, I would much rather be a white guy. Shit, I can go on a forum and have an asian women say I am superior to her based on my skin color.


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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21905568 - 07/06/15 02:47 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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>3 doesn't happen (3. Quotas at colleges)

I knew you were dizzy but I thought you had some clue. Racial quotas at many universities are a well known subject, we've discussed it on the boards many times. Fail once again.

>4 doesn't happen in the private sector (4. Quotas imposed on business)

The private sector IS business and if they don't hire enough negroes or whatever group is "lacking" they get sued by the us dept of injustice and have to pay tons of money.





The Supreme Court struck down quotas.  Not sure where you get your information.  Can you provide sources?

http://www.civilrights.org/resources/civilrights101/affirmaction.html?referrer=https://www.google.com/

http://www.ncsl.org/research/education/affirmative-action-court-decisions.aspx

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>5 maybe whites should quit committing so many hate crimes

Most hate crimes are committed by blacks or Hispanics. What do you think it was when the rioters went looking for whites to beat up and rob? Just having a little fun?




Most?  I'm sure some of this does go on but can you provide evidence that backs up your claim?


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    #21905706 - 07/06/15 03:24 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
    #21905729 - 07/06/15 03:29 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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pbw, you don't care about facts, you will just sneer at whatever sources are given and find fault somehow.




ad hominem.  The only source you've ever used with me is wikipedia and some dictionary site.  Both of which contradicted your own argument.  I was fine with the sources, they just didn't support your argument the way you thought.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/justice-dept-sue-north-carolina-alleged-racial-discrimination-tough-new-voting-rules-article-1.1471624

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2015/03/30/justice-dept-sues-a-university-for-firing-a-professor-who-switched-gender/

http://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-owners-and-manager-rental-homes-north-carolina-engaging-race




I'll look over these.

*edit*  Umm...  these are all cases where someone is being sued for discrimination.  I don't see how this supports any of your arguments.


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