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OfflineMalachi
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all those black people who our country has imprisoned...
    #1820068 - 08/16/03 04:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

"Blacks constitute 13 percent of all drug users, but 35 percent of those arrested for drug possession, 55 percent of persons convicted, and 74 percent of people sent to prison"

"Felony disfranchisement laws have resulted in the disfranchisement of 1.4 million African-American men, or 13 percent of the African-American adult male population, a rate that is seven times the national average"

so why are comparisons with the gulag out of line? in 20 years, won't we look back at this shit as a monumental farce equal to russia's?


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: Malachi]
    #1820138 - 08/16/03 05:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Percent-wise blacks commit more crimes than white people. That's a fact not a racist statement. Thus the higher percent in jail.


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: FileSoup]
    #1820162 - 08/16/03 05:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I agree, Malachi statements indirectly reflect the crime rate of African Americans... but instead of placing blame on those that have commited crimes, he places blame on those who arrest the criminals and those that pass the laws that make activities a crime.


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: TheShroomHermit]
    #1820178 - 08/16/03 05:18 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I think the reason for this is less due to race and more due to our countries economic situation.  I'm not sure of the statistics, but I'm willing to bet that blacks make up a very large portion of the below-poverty level portion of our population.  Combine that with the racial alienation practiced all through out our culture and I believe you get more crime.  I could be wrong though.  Maybe niggers are just bad people :wink:


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: Malachi]
    #1820272 - 08/16/03 05:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

If o.j. can get off murder it means any black could. Beacuse more black people are in jail than any other race is their own damn fault.
Expect for the few who actually were prosecuted simply beacuse they are black which does not happen to often any more.


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: FileSoup]
    #1820277 - 08/16/03 05:40 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

ok.... I'll try again.
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"Blacks constitute 13 percent of all drug users, but 35 percent of those arrested for drug possession, 55 percent of persons convicted, and 74 percent of people sent to prison



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Percent-wise blacks commit more crimes than white people. That's a fact not a racist statement. Thus the higher percent in jail.



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learn to read.


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: the universe]
    #1820286 - 08/16/03 05:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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the universe said:
I think the reason for this is less due to race and more due to our countries economic situation.  I'm not sure of the statistics, but I'm willing to bet that blacks make up a very large portion of the below-poverty level portion of our population.  Combine that with the racial alienation practiced all through out our culture and I believe you get more crime.  I could be wrong though.  Maybe niggers are just bad people :wink: 




that really is what it come down to: either blacks are at a disadvantage, or niggers are just bad people.   


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: Malachi]
    #1820289 - 08/16/03 05:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

they can't afford good lawyers


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: the universe]
    #1820290 - 08/16/03 05:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

>Maybe niggers are just bad people
You have to be black to use the 'N' word, or else your a racist.

I wonder if the lifestyle portrayed by many contemporary Heep Hop artists is contributing to the elevated crime rate in the African Americans who idolize them. Yeah, thats all the $20 I'm allowed to throw around for tonight, I'm broke.


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: Malachi]
    #1820297 - 08/16/03 05:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Malachi said:
"Blacks constitute 13 percent of all drug users, but 35 percent of those arrested for drug possession,




It might be beacuse cops are more likely to go over after crack babies is watts than petty pot smokers in white suburbs. Areas of high crime tend to be predominatly black areas so there are more cops patroling the area.

Besides what you might like the bealive most cops are honest good people and not all racists.


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: d33p]
    #1820298 - 08/16/03 05:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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d33p said:
If o.j. can get off murder it means any black could. Beacuse more black people are in jail than any other race is their own damn fault.
Expect for the few who actually were prosecuted simply beacuse they are black which does not happen to often any more.




it doesn't?

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The rate of drug admissions to state prison for black men is 13 times greater than the rate for white





http://www.multiracial.com/readers/hornberger13.html


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: d33p]
    #1820309 - 08/16/03 05:49 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

d33p said:
Quote:

Malachi said:
"Blacks constitute 13 percent of all drug users, but 35 percent of those arrested for drug possession,




It might be beacuse cops are more likely to go over after crack babies is watts than petty pot smokers in white suburbs. Areas of high crime tend to be predominatly black areas so there are more cops patroling the area.



Besides what you might like the bealive most cops are honest good people and not all racists.




that's just dumb. lots of kids in the burbs are doing worse than the 'ol rock... you just watch too much TV.

as for cops being friendly... you must be from canada, cause here in america cops = zeig heil.


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: Malachi]
    #1820339 - 08/16/03 05:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

"Blacks constitute 13 percent of all drug users, but 35 percent of those arrested for drug possession"

Where does this statistic come from? This is suggesting that blacks make up an exactly proportionate amount of drug users (since 13% of population is black).

Racism alone could not possibly account for the discrepancy there.


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: Malachi]
    #1820353 - 08/16/03 06:02 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

What is worse than the rock. Please tell me so i can go out an buy some tonight. And which would you rather walk through. A small suburb neaborhood wearing i sign that said "i hate crackers" or through a neaborhood in watts that said "i hate niggers". Assuming you are white.

And for saying all cops are nazis that just dumb. I wouldnt want to live in bad neaborhood with no cops. And i dont know if you were around in the mid seventies when the lights went out in nyc. But if you where tell why was it that most of the looters where a specific race?

And i kno plenty of cops who are decent family people who bealive in "to serve and protect(all people equaly)"


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: d33p]
    #1820394 - 08/16/03 06:11 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

of course the burbs, hell, it'd probably make me the coolest kid in town to wear a sign that said "I hate crakers..."

"I wouldnt want to live in bad neaborhood with no cops. And i dont know if you were around in the mid seventies when the lights went out in nyc. But if you where tell why was it that most of the looters where a specific race?"

cause... niggers are bad? is that what you're looking for?

as for cops, I'd prefer a nice gun of my own to a hired thug. what kind of loyalty does a hired thug have? none to me.

"And i kno plenty of cops who are decent family people who bealive in "to serve and protect(all people equaly)""

well, I know PLENTY of cops too, and yes, there are some good ones, but I think you're confusing complacency with "good". "good" cops are frustrated.... most leave the force. most cops are ignorant bastids.


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: Malachi]
    #1820450 - 08/16/03 06:24 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Well your reply was funny but still avoided the subject.

cause... niggers are bad? is that what you're looking for?

You said that not me. i was just pointing out a fact. That simple.

I have a gun and i have cops on my side so i perfer both. Not everything can be solved with a gun and if it could over population would solve itself.

And simply saying that most cops are based on nothing really is not saying anything


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: Malachi]
    #1820754 - 08/16/03 08:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Most blacks that are criminals chose to become criminals because they are black.

That's the racism you're looking for.


That's where it is.






That's where it's at.


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1820770 - 08/16/03 08:20 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

maybe they chose to be criminals cause they are HUNGRY!!!!, and being black is just a coincidence


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: Malachi]
    #1820815 - 08/16/03 08:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

This thread is silly. Nothing in here is this black and white (pun). Why do you humans always have to simplify things up when it's so much more complicated?  :nut:


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Re: all those black people who our country has imprisoned... [Re: FileSoup]
    #1820903 - 08/16/03 09:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

blacks do commit more crimes than whites, but there are still misproportionately more blacks in jail than whites.


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