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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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yes, and that is why every single time travel movie talks about causality.... butterfly flapping its wings and shit. But at what point, especially in comparison to other groups, is that no longer a viable excuse for disparity being endemic?
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said: You're missing a central part of my argument. I made no argument referring to holding onto the past. Only that the past effects the future. I'm not going to break it down again if you're too thick to understand.
It really doesn't matter, 100 years from now the same excuses will be made by the same cultures, you have to truly believe you are inferior to make those types of demands and rationalizations.
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SneezingPenis said: yes, and that is why every single time travel movie talks about causality.... butterfly flapping its wings and shit. But at what point, especially in comparison to other groups, is that no longer a viable excuse for disparity being endemic?
I don't know what point, but I think 4-6 generations since slavery (for a significant number of blacks today) isn't all that much time. Especially considering that for most of that time they were still incredibly oppressed. Things started to turn around about one generation before today, and you expect them to flip like a switch.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: qman]
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Bigbadwooof said: You're missing a central part of my argument. I made no argument referring to holding onto the past. Only that the past effects the future. I'm not going to break it down again if you're too thick to understand.
It really doesn't matter, 100 years from now the same excuses will be made by the same cultures, you have to truly believe you are inferior to make those types of demands and rationalizations.
I am white as a sheet, dude. I am just a rational human being.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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Bigbadwooof said: You're missing a central part of my argument. I made no argument referring to holding onto the past. Only that the past effects the future. I'm not going to break it down again if you're too thick to understand.
It really doesn't matter, 100 years from now the same excuses will be made by the same cultures, you have to truly believe you are inferior to make those types of demands and rationalizations.
I am white as a sheet, dude. I am just a rational human being.
I was referring to the black culture, not you personally.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: qman]
#21937200 - 07/13/15 12:51 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree that black culture is damaging.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21937576 - 07/13/15 02:37 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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>Only that the past effects the future.
Why then is it that other cultures are able to shrug it off but not negroes? Are you telling us they are inferior?
> I think 4-6 generations since slavery (for a significant number of blacks today) isn't all that much time
Christ almighty, people came here after far worse conditions and in 1 generation they were doing great. Its co-enablers like you that keep blacks down telling them they are inferior and can't make it without handouts.
>I'm not going to break it down again if you're too thick to understand.
Isnt this the same guy who was whining about ad hominems when people said libs were dense? Here is a direct attack, not a general statement. Your little argument is what broke down and you can't defend it.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21940139 - 07/14/15 12:22 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Stonehenge said: >Only that the past effects the future.
Why then is it that other cultures are able to shrug it off but not negroes? Are you telling us they are inferior?
> I think 4-6 generations since slavery (for a significant number of blacks today) isn't all that much time
Christ almighty, people came here after far worse conditions and in 1 generation they were doing great. Its co-enablers like you that keep blacks down telling them they are inferior and can't make it without handouts.
>I'm not going to break it down again if you're too thick to understand.
Isnt this the same guy who was whining about ad hominems when people said libs were dense? Here is a direct attack, not a general statement. Your little argument is what broke down and you can't defend it.
That wasn't an ad hominem. I've made several clear arguments that you don't seem to understand. Also, what are these 'far worse conditions' than slavery and living in a society that racially opresses you for generations?
I don't tell blacks they're inferior, or believe that they are. Stop projecting.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21941003 - 07/14/15 08:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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>That wasn't an ad hominem. I've made several clear arguments that you don't seem to understand.
And another one. Your "clear" arguments are left wing nonsense and wishful thinking.
>Also, what are these 'far worse conditions' than slavery and living in a society that racially opresses you for generations?
First of all, slaves were not oppressed, they had their role and their niche. They were treated well, they were expensive property and often treated like family. Far worse conditions include having everything you own taken from you, put into prison, killed. Stalin was so harsh to his own people millions of them died. You obviously live in a bubble with no idea what the rest of the world is like.
So we have black people today, with no direct lineage to slaves who can't work or do anything to get ahead and its because of slavery in the 1800's? Those people fleeing persecution still remember what they left. When bums try to peddle victimhood, they are not buying. The bums have to find another group who will buy their crap.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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DieCommie said: I know. I keep my mouth shut at work and back in school. I just bow my head in shame along with everyone else when the lecture bemoaning our lack of skin color and genital diversity starts.
Genital diversity? I know they say black men have larger cocks, but I didn't realize that was part of this discussion. Now that I think about it though, maybe penis envy is the real reason so many of you folks adopt your racist ideology.
Insinuating that people hold certain views because they are jealous of the size of the genital of some other group of people...are all liberals as disgusting as you?
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21942671 - 07/14/15 04:14 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bigbadwooof said: k people are equivalent to teenagers on some level?
I don't 'cry that it's unfair', however, it is wrong to treat people differently on a racial basis.
Why is it wrong to treat people differently on a racial basis? You know I have raven-black hair, and everywhere I go, I see blond girls being treated like a princess by their boyfriends. Can I go and protest to those men that they should also treat me like they treat the blond girls? No, that would be both insane as well as stupid.
Face it, people treat other people differently based on their physical looks. That's just how it is. And this applies to race, because different races look differently. It's just how things work. You can cry about it for a thousand years and it won't change one thing.
Also, funny how leftists like you are always moralizing. You are always telling other people what they did wrong, what they should do and should say. I say fuck right off. Me and a whole bunch of people don't need shits like you telling us how to be ethical beings. You don't have the monopoly on ethical behavior. Get it straight.
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paperbackwriter said: As they should. It's not only a smart business decision it's good for society as a whole.
Read the article.
Excuse me? Who the fuck died and put you in charge of deciding what's good for the whole society?
Speak for yourself only.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: WAN]
#21942946 - 07/14/15 05:07 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Every time these conversations come up all the arguments basically call for a fucking time machine to go back and fix shit. Maybe we should chain up white people for a little while to make it even? People are judging people today is like judging a murder's son. We are trying are best to make an equal society.
Has anyone taken a look around at other countries and seen how fucked up they are? Boko Haram has their own BLACK slaves. ISIS has thousands of slaves not to mention mass executions going on daily.
Not to even mention the North Korean labor slave camps or even the 2 penny a day pay in China.
You notice how every country the United States has a foothold in, is doing well.
Saying we stole the land from the Natives is a true statement but conquering is conquering. Switch the roles and they would have conquered us. It's human nature.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said: >That wasn't an ad hominem. I've made several clear arguments that you don't seem to understand.
And another one. Your "clear" arguments are left wing nonsense and wishful thinking.
>Also, what are these 'far worse conditions' than slavery and living in a society that racially opresses you for generations?
First of all, slaves were not oppressed, they had their role and their niche. They were treated well, they were expensive property and often treated like family. Far worse conditions include having everything you own taken from you, put into prison, killed. Stalin was so harsh to his own people millions of them died. You obviously live in a bubble with no idea what the rest of the world is like.
So we have black people today, with no direct lineage to slaves who can't work or do anything to get ahead and its because of slavery in the 1800's? Those people fleeing persecution still remember what they left. When bums try to peddle victimhood, they are not buying. The bums have to find another group who will buy their crap.
Slaves were treated well? Like family? Really Stoney? Do you actually believe this line of horse shit?
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: WAN]
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DieCommie said: I know. I keep my mouth shut at work and back in school. I just bow my head in shame along with everyone else when the lecture bemoaning our lack of skin color and genital diversity starts.
Genital diversity? I know they say black men have larger cocks, but I didn't realize that was part of this discussion. Now that I think about it though, maybe penis envy is the real reason so many of you folks adopt your racist ideology.
Insinuating that people hold certain views because they are jealous of the size of the genital of some other group of people...are all liberals as disgusting as you?
Really? You don't understand the wordplay? He's the one who said 'genital diversity. Quit trollin.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
#21946149 - 07/15/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do people abuse their pets? No. Do they abuse their expensive farm animals? No. So why would they abuse their slaves? There may have been an occasional exception just as we have people today who abuse animals but it was far from the common scenario your gullible liberal mind believes.
It was explained to you that genital diversity meant having more women but all you think about is cocks.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
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Stonehenge said: Do people abuse their pets? No. Do they abuse their expensive farm animals? No. So why would they abuse their slaves? There may have been an occasional exception just as we have people today who abuse animals but it was far from the common scenario your gullible liberal mind believes.
It was explained to you that genital diversity meant having more women but all you think about is cocks.
Sorry, I've never heard that term before. I think 'gender diversity' would be more appropriate.
As far as abused pets and farm animals, I've lived in farm country and seen some fucked up shit. One of my neighbor's kids threw his old cat into a pig pen, expecting it to make it out. It was eaten alive, and they thought it was funnier than fuck! In fact, when I was a kid one of my brothers used to mutilate frogs and fish. Actually, I've seen some horrible mistreatment of animals.
Now imagine this is a human being. It was no rare occasion that slaves were brutally raped. I recall one instance of a slaver who forced slaves to shit and piss in eachother's mouths. Slaves were whipped, had their feet and hands chopped off, were brutally murdered. It's really not the same at all. A slave is not a pet or livestock.
The fact that you're even making this argument is really fucked up tbh... this isn't really something up for debate, it's repulsive.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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>As far as abused pets and farm animals, I've lived in farm country and seen some fucked up shit. One of my neighbor's kids threw his old cat into a pig pen, expecting it to make it out. It was eaten alive, and they thought it was funnier than fuck! In fact, when I was a kid one of my brothers used to mutilate frogs and fish. Actually, I've seen some horrible mistreatment of animals.
Is that accepted? No. And it was kids, some creepy kids who did something creepy. There are laws against that and it still happens.
>It was no rare occasion that slaves were brutally raped. I recall one instance of a slaver who forced slaves to shit and piss in eachother's mouths.
You "recall"?? I highly doubt you were around then and this is just some crap you made up or a story some other moonbat made up that you repeated.
>Slaves were whipped, had their feet and hands chopped off, were brutally murdered.
We see this happen today but its not accepted, it is considered now and was considered then to be wrong. Its not something that happened routinely.
>A slave is not a pet or livestock.
That was their status and the great majority were treated well. They were very expensive and only a lunatic would do anything like that. Do you brutalize your pets? Maybe you shouldn't answer.
>The fact that you're even making this argument is really fucked up tbh... this isn't really something up for debate, it's repulsive.
So we are supposed to simply take your word for it when you have been caught so many times lying?
Anyway, we are talking about black privilege today. We already know they were slaves in the 1800's. Why should someone who happens to be dark get special privileges today? Do you even realize you are promoting racist policies which makes you a racist?
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21951439 - 07/16/15 10:51 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Been caught so many times lying? I don't lie. Your rationalizations are despicable. I am done with this conversation, honestly.
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Re: Does black privilege exist? [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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>I don't lie.
Lets just say your view of reality is skewed.
>Your rationalizations are despicable
You don't like having your racism revealed, do you? Naturally you don't want to talk about that.
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