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OfflineTheOneYouKnow
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Misuse of the phrase "African-American"
    #2253540 - 01/19/04 07:00 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

African American
A Black American of African ancestry. See Usage Note at black.



I was in the doctors office a few days ago and I saw a sign that really upset me. It said that "African Americans" were at a higher risk of developing said condition. I am personally against the phrase itself because it is very non-specific. The condition, whatever it was, that the poster was talking about is not only a condition that applies to "A black American of African ancestry", but to all "negros" world wide. Using this term to describe black people basically assumes out of existance all of the non-black people from northern Africa.

When it comes to medical science, I'd prefer that they maintain their objectivity and post the truth rather than the PC version thereof.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2254911 - 01/20/04 03:07 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

They should list probability according to each specific african tribe.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2254997 - 01/20/04 04:37 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

They should have just put "if ya got a big nose,big lips,curly hair and are dark then you may be at risk". OR use a term that is widly accepted like African American.
Don't get offended by the PC terms, that's what forced people into creating them.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2255141 - 01/20/04 06:52 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

What's funny is that many S. Africans are white.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2255192 - 01/20/04 07:39 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I wish everyone would just use the term "black." They like it, we like it, it's short, non-offensive, universally understood.... African-American is unnecessary, and as Innvertigo just suggested, propagates ambiguities.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: SlapnutRob]
    #2255210 - 01/20/04 07:56 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Calling all black people "African American" is like calling all white people European American.
Being black shouldn't make a person "African" any more than being white should make a person European!!!
Talk about racism..........my wife just started college and for the life of us we can't find any scholarships for just white folk. There seem to be plenty for "minorities" whether they can pass an SAT or not.
Go figure.
The medical thing is like saying that because I'm Cherokee, German, and Swede....I'm going to be an alcoholic of major proportions.
I wish everyone was color-blind.
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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: Kttail]
    #2255224 - 01/20/04 08:11 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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The medical thing is like saying that because I'm Cherokee, German, and Swede....I'm going to be an alcoholic of major proportions




i'm German and Italian so i have a tendancy to want to take over the world.  Some generalizations are correct. :wink:


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2255327 - 01/20/04 09:52 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Black confuses us white people. Because....You arent REALLY black, are you? If we could call you brown...but that sounds offensive, doesnt it?

While, if white people stay out of the sun, we DO indeed turn white.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2255555 - 01/20/04 11:20 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Innvertigo said:
i'm German and Italian so i have a tendancy to want to take over the world.




You were supposed to have that done already...your day planner said 2:00 pm last thursday....tos mice not working out for ya....


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: Innvertigo]
    #2255691 - 01/20/04 12:02 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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i'm German and Italian so i have a tendancy to want to take over the world. Some generalizations are correct.


Tell me about it...I'm a Scotsman that was adopted by a German and a Jap...I keep wanting to take over the world, but fortunately I get too drunk before I can do any real damage.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2255695 - 01/20/04 12:04 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Was anyone really confused by it?

Then it's not really a big deal.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #2255760 - 01/20/04 12:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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You were supposed to have that done already...your day planner said 2:00 pm last thursday....tos mice not working out for ya....




That's this Thursday, you might need to change the batteries in your palm pilot.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: Rono]
    #2255767 - 01/20/04 12:37 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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I get too drunk before I can do any real damage




a couple of broken bar stools is the extent of your rage...

If it's not Scottish, it's crap!!


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2255929 - 01/20/04 01:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Reminds me of an interview I read about where an American presenter was speaking to Kriss Akabusi (UK athlete) after he won a medal in 91.

"So, Kriss, what does this mean to you as an African-American?"

"I'm not American, I'm British"

"Yes, but as a British African-American ..."

"I'm not African. I'm not American. I'm British."


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: Edame]
    #2256093 - 01/20/04 02:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

That's funny.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2256139 - 01/20/04 03:05 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I know a black chick at my college who could properly be called African American, cuz her family's from Ethiopia.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: Edame]
    #2256862 - 01/20/04 07:06 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Here's something I read that Whoopi Goldberg said once.

(Not an exact quote)

"So what would you say to other African-American..."

"I'm not an African-American. My parents weren't from Africa, my grandparents weren't from Africa, my great-grandparents weren't from Africa. Just call me black."

Can't we loose the hyphens already? This simply furthers the racial divide.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #2256878 - 01/20/04 07:11 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

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HagbardCeline said:
Here's something I read that Whoopi Goldberg said once.

(Not an exact quote)

"So what would you say to other African-American..."

"I'm not an African-American. My parents weren't from Africa, my grandparents weren't from Africa, my great-grandparents weren't from Africa. Just call me black."

Can't we loose the hyphens already? This simply furthers the racial divide.




I think that black, white, mexican, asian, oriental, all are terms that are respectful and quite correct. Even in the "olden days" the word "nigger" wasn't used intentionally as a demeaning term.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
    #2257732 - 01/20/04 11:10 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

"Even in the "olden days" the word "nigger" wasn't used intentionally as a demeaning term."

Uh, yeah it was. "Negro" wasn't a slur, "nigger" was.


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Re: Misuse of the phrase "African-American" [Re: Phluck]
    #2259130 - 01/21/04 09:44 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

From the American Heritage Dictionary....
"nigger - vulgar- A Negro or member of any dark skinned people. An offensive term used derogatorily."

and a term I don't allow in my house, even from my wife.


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