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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: orangeyouglad]
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I think that most of the stuff you see about the horrors of industrial farming are overwrought and deceptive.


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: zappaisgod]
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Factory farms make a deliberate effort to conceal their operations and impetuously avoid any request for transparency. Due to this, all the evidence made public that reveals the animal abuse happening at these facilities has only been made possible by covert means, and is thus unofficial. That alone doesn't make it in any way exaggerated though. Would you refer to leaked footage from say a Nazi concentration camp as deceptive?

Looking at the evidence and watching the corporate behavior, it only suggests that what we are seeing is really only a fraction of what are daily occurrences across the board.


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: AlteredAgain]
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AlteredAgain said:
I was under the impression that you were trolling. Therefore I misquoted you.

I apologize if that was your genuine opinion, which in that case I must say, wow.. :oogle:

Open your eyes and take a close, hard look at industrial farming practices today.




how about you open your eyes and take a look, this industrial stuff isnt as common as you think

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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: AlteredAgain]
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AlteredAgain said:
Factory farms make a deliberate effort to conceal their operations and impetuously avoid any request for transparency. Due to this, all the evidence made public that reveals the animal abuse happening at these facilities has only been made possible by covert means, and is thus unofficial. That alone doesn't make it in any way exaggerated though. Would you refer to leaked footage from say a Nazi concentration camp as deceptive?



Nitwits make a deliberate effort to paint them in as bad a light as possible.  They are regularly inspected by the FDA.  There are hundreds of these farms and of course some will suck.  That's all you ever see, the ones that are really bad becase that is what the people who do these videos want you to see.  Do you think they don't edit out the examples that are decently treating animals?  Of course they do.  They are produced by shockmongers and are no more a reflection of reality than anything else.
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Looking at the evidence and watching the corporate behavior, it only suggests that what we are seeing is really only a fraction of what are daily occurrences across the board.



I disagree and suspect that you are only being shown the worst of the worst.  Do you think that is all the footage they have accumulated?  Of course it isn't but the rest has no value to them.  And y'all should just stop using the word "corporate".  You don't even know what it means.


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: Prisoner#1]
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3,810 cattle
5,144 hogs
168,080 broilers

average, per site in the U.S.

do you know how many sites there are in the U.S.?

we're not even talking about the world here, and you're saying this industrial stuff isn't that common?

get a grip pris.


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: AlteredAgain]
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What are those numbers for or from?  Cattle?  They aren't typically "industrialized" until the end when they go to a feed lot.  How many chickens have their beaks chopped off?


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: JonnyBtreed]
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JonnyBtreed said:
what about the animals quality of life while alive?



Watch an episode of Wild Kingdom and then drag your sanctimonious ass in here and give us the quality of life lecture.  :laugh:ogshitpost:


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: mpd]
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I still think I'd rather be free roaming the wild with the possibility of dying at any point than chained to a pole, shot up with steroids, hormones, pesticides and other chemicals and standing in my own piss and shit for my short meaningless life until I'm electrocuted and beheaded.

Shit if you go in the woods as a human you could be eaten by a bear, go in the water you could be eaten by a shark. Get caught in the woods late at night and get attacked and eaten by a pack of coyotes. We're not at the top of the food chain, humans always have the chance of being eaten alive, just as other animals do, we put ourselves in precarious positions all the time. :shrug:

http://www.cracked.com/funny-5992-the-5-worst-ways-animals-can-kill-your-ass/

Edited by JonnyBtreed (02/19/13 05:28 PM)

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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: JonnyBtreed]
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JonnyBtreed said:
I still think I'd rather be free roaming the wild with the possibility of dying at any point than chained to a pole, shot up with steroids, hormones, pesticides and other chemicals and standing in my own piss and shit for my short meaningless life until I'm electrocuted and beheaded.

Shit if you go in the woods as a human you could be eaten by a bear, go in the water you could be eaten by a shark. Get caught in the woods late at night and get attacked and eaten by a pack of coyotes. We're not at the top of the food chain, humans always have the chance of being eaten alive, just as other animals do, we put ourselves in precarious positions all the time. :shrug:



I don't think humans have to deal with the same odds as critters.  And we most certainly are the top of the food chain.


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: zappaisgod]
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without a gun, out in the woods? I don't think so.

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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: JonnyBtreed]
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JonnyBtreed said:
without a gun, out in the woods? I don't think so.



Why the fuck would a lion cut his claws off?


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: zappaisgod]
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he wouldn't, but there is a conspiracy to hurt lions


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: g00ru]
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I see.  So that's it.  Thanks for the heads up.


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: zappaisgod]
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:paranoid:


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: SARAtonin]
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I struggled all my life to be a vegetarian because I think it is the morally superior choice. But I was constantly craving meat and struggling to gain weight and feeling like like it was wasting all my body building work outs and I wasn't getting enough protein. So I finally caved and now I am eating a high protein diet consisting of a lot of turkey, bison and fish. I am much happier and putting on some muscle. But I salute anyone who has the discipline to practice an ahimsa diet (minimum suffering vegetarian vegan).


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Re: Reconsidering vegetarianism. [Re: Moonshoe]
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vegan diet+beer will gain weight.

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