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OfflineMurex
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Your mind creates your reality
    #1595597 - 05/31/03 04:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)


In order for you to grasp this reality, you must first create this reality in your head. A child's world is still the same as yours, but to the child, it is different because the child doesn't know as much about this reality as you do.

We are all one life here on earth, branching off in different stages of evolution, but all life on earth is related. An animal might see your same reality differently because of it's brain structure and it's unbiased view of it's own world. It might have a better sense of smell or sight than humans, maybe it sees no color, or maybe has nightvision. It has different instincts, it might be affected by gravity differently.

A human child without society would view this same reality differently than us 'civilized' humans. But who says our view is any better?

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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: Murex]
    #1595792 - 05/31/03 09:46 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That's no thread, that's a lecture!!

The correct way to start a thread is to be wrong and let us correct it in twenty completely incompatible ways :mad:

This is S&P!!
You're supposed to say something stupid so we can thrash you :mad:

I agree with your post  :laugh: 


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: Asante]
    #1595979 - 05/31/03 12:24 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ofcourse, everybody knows that :tongue:

Its all about how you interperate reality, thats why the world can be heaven and hell :smile:


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: Murex]
    #1596064 - 05/31/03 01:02 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The hidden premise is that conceptual abstraction and perceptual abstraction are one and the same. They aren't.


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: ]
    #1596090 - 05/31/03 01:17 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yes, we all eventually see facts within our reality that are the same to all who live on this planet. Physics and prooveable science do govern our reality. BUT we must equalize our mental reality with the laws of this one in order for us to function properly here. That is my point.

If we lived in a tesseract reality with physical laws seemingly unreal when compared to ours, we could adapt. And if we adapt, our whole psyche changes to conform to that new reality. Tripping alot can allow your brain to adapt better to other contious dimensions, but also might disrupt your normal, sober equilibrum. Thus you would adapt to another contious reality while still being sober in this physical dimension.





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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



Edited by Murex (05/31/03 01:24 PM)


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: Murex]
    #1596307 - 05/31/03 03:10 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Murex, try working with psiballs. Yours thoughts will manifest in reality.


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1596456 - 05/31/03 04:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)


I only feel the 'chi', I don't see shit.


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What if all the world you think you know,
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And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?



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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1596534 - 05/31/03 04:52 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

you don't need "psiballs" to manifest your thoughts in reality. just decide to go outside for a walk. soon your reality will change dramatically.


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: johnnyfive]
    #1596944 - 05/31/03 09:55 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yours thoughts will manifest in reality.

Just like the 3,000 victims of the WTC bombings "manifested" their reality. "Hmmm, I think I will die in a fireball today - yeah, that's what I'll do!"



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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: Swami]
    #1597108 - 05/31/03 11:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

For the sake of argument, why does the "manifesting" have to be a concious process? If reality was a collective manifestation then as long as one person manifested something that was believable to others, then the others would also manifest it. Because they believe what they see.

The terrorist's manifestation could become the victims' manifestation because they believed it was real.

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What you know you can't explain,
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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: trendal]
    #1597127 - 06/01/03 12:05 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Swami wrote
>Just like the 3,000 victims of the WTC bombings "manifested" their
>reality. "Hmmm, I think I will die in a fireball today - yeah, that's what I'll do!"
I agree with Swami here... the whole "we create our own reality" notion
can get out of hand quickly.

trendal wrote:
>For the sake of argument, why does the "manifesting" have to be a concious
>process

That's a real catch-22... "we're creating our own reality at a sub concious level"
so my sub concious chooses to constantly inflict pain on myself...all I need
to do is to tell it to stop doing this... but alas, it's at the subconcious level, no
way to communicate with it...but fear not, with the with the right training from
the right guru, we can free ourselves from ourselves within 2 or 3 reincarnations... just sign on the dotted line...:grin:
sorry, just feeling a bit cynical today 


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: lucid]
    #1597163 - 06/01/03 12:23 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

No I think you misunderstood what I meant  :smirk:

Again, for the sake of argument, let us assume that reality is a "manifestation" of our thoughts, or at least it is partially so.

Let's say "reality" is also a collective deal - created by the collective and combined "manifestations" of all concious'. This seems to be likely as we are obviously somewhat "together" in our "reality".

I think that we all believe in a relatively universal set of "possible" aspects to reality. By this I mean that what I believe possible within the bounds of "physical reality" is relatively the same as what everyone else believes (yes there are always exceptions to the rule).

So if we all believe something to be "real" then we will all experience it as "real" thru our collective manifestation. Things that are not collectively believed to be possible will not manifest very easily in the collective reality because it's just "not possible".

When I say "believe" I do not mean a concious, or sub-concious, belief. I think that there are certain "laws" which human conciousness is required to "believe" in order to be a human conciousness. The Laws are not part of concious thought - they are the basis for it's existence. The conciousness itself would attempt to hide anything that could bring notice to the grounds of its own existence - a self-preserving action.

For the sake of argument  :wink: 


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What you know you can't explain,
But you feel it;
You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
You don't know what it is, but it's there....
Like a splinter in your mind...
Driving you mad.


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: trendal]
    #1597230 - 06/01/03 12:54 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

At this time I have begun to wonder what has been created in our generation... As far as I know, we do not think like our parents and grandparents did...they accepted things as they were more often. Suicide rates have gone up over the years, and a great deal of them seem to be caused by confusion when it comes to thinking about their reality... I'm beginning to be afraid of what our children will be capable of.. The phrase 'too smart for your own good' is beginning to have more meaning than the creater could have ever dreamed of. I have learned to accept life for what it is, and explore things from every angle which still leaves me with a fairly stable view. As far as I can tell, the life I live is how trendal explains humanity to be. Trendal, may you words come to us until you have no words left.


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: ]
    #1597622 - 06/01/03 04:02 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Every reality is an opinion....create your own reality


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: ]
    #1597873 - 06/01/03 10:33 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

hopefully the past generations will have as little influence as possible on the new ones


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: Grav]
    #1597906 - 06/01/03 11:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That is a good idea. Each new generation should invent, not a few cool buzzwords, but an entire language from scratch. No knowledge whatsover of science, technology, art, agriculture, mycology, or history should be passed down.

Wait. In another thread, you said that finishing high school was important. Now you are saying that it is unimportant to be influenced by the previous generation. Make up your mind!


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: Swami]
    #1597935 - 06/01/03 11:35 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

That knowledge is here already. Not much we can do about it.

I meant that it would be nice to see a generation that doesn't revolve around the hording of personal wealth, the demonization of other cultures, and the fear of god. This and past generations seem to have overtones of that.


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: Grav]
    #1597940 - 06/01/03 11:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I understand people relied on these fears and isolations to cope with reality in the past, but I really think we're starting to grow up a little and climb out of the crib.


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: Grav]
    #1597944 - 06/01/03 11:43 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

We have a long way to go Grav, a long way to go.


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Re: Your mind creates your reality [Re: Murex]
    #1598223 - 06/01/03 02:54 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I ment imagination!


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