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Reality isn't real
    #1915187 - 09/14/03 01:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Your thoughts are


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Shroomism]
    #1915214 - 09/14/03 01:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

i just want to say to that our thoughts is what we think what our mind allaw us to think.
i mean that if go further than my mind allow us we won't be us sorry i am fucked up with wineee
come back later


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Shroomism]
    #1915215 - 09/14/03 01:32 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

satan told me that once he said "everything is real in your reality" (basically the same thing) and he kept telling me "the book is made of human flesh" strange to because i dont believe in christianity, well acid is a quite the teacher. truly life altering experience


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Shroomism]
    #1915229 - 09/14/03 01:36 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

All is real.Every bit of it.

Even the shit that isn't real. :confused: 


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I see what everyone is saying. It is so hard to form an opinion when you see both sides so clearly!


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Solitude]
    #1915230 - 09/14/03 01:37 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

anybody founds things enoprmus.dont make them perpose of your living.
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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Shroomism]
    #1915257 - 09/14/03 01:51 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

While it is occuring I suppose it is.
Eventually, it won't be. While time exists everything is destined to become unreal.

Everything is unraveled by time.

I think. :crazy: 


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Shroomism]
    #1915357 - 09/14/03 02:27 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Yes and No.


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Shroomism]
    #1915367 - 09/14/03 02:31 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

The way we see things is our reality, also science is built on this reality. You can't tell if the reality as we know it is how things really are(or are not :smirk:)


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: stefan]
    #1915403 - 09/14/03 02:40 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

reality is temporary
spirit is eternal

so I guess, in that way, the soul is "more real" than the external universe


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: DoctorJ]
    #1915454 - 09/14/03 03:03 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

great.... so we've managed to distinguish appearance/ reality. woohoo.

decartes is rolling in his grave. you guys have to get out more.


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Malachi]
    #1915487 - 09/14/03 03:13 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Malachi said:
great.... so we've managed to distinguish appearance/ reality. woohoo.

decartes is rolling in his grave. you guys have to get out more.




I would go out more, but when I step outside my door, I end up in some strange, Pink Floyd-ish desert and sandworms chase me.
Peace.


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1915492 - 09/14/03 03:14 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Don't you hate it when that happens? I know I do.


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: fireworks_god]
    #1915507 - 09/14/03 03:20 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

" Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey lteter by it slef but the wrod as a wlohe "

" I saw a special on Discover a while back in which they discussed that we are percieving our entire world just as we are those letters you've got printed above. We only see very little, we actually 'pretend' to see everything else. " Quotes from another forum


Well reality isnt real we just imagine it.



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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: silversoul7]
    #1915519 - 09/14/03 03:23 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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silversoul7 said:
Don't you hate it when that happens?  I know I do. 




I mean, all I did was see it happen on television, and I firmly believed that that happening is real, and it started to read it.. all I had to do was believe it without question, without allowing any thoughts to say otherwise, even the visual input coming in that disagreed... and I really do see sandworms now! :grin:
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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: EvilGir]
    #1915538 - 09/14/03 03:30 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

try sleeping for bursts, waking up, sleeping etc. you get loads of crazy dreams, that really confuses you.

wow you perceive words from pattern recognition, also even numbers are no easier to use in maths than odd numbers it just seems that way because your brain has become accustomed to working like that.


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: silversoul7]
    #1915586 - 09/14/03 03:55 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Yes and No.



Let me expand on this. I believe there are infinite "levels" or "layers" of reality. On one level, this reality is real in that we experience it as such. But there are infinite other levels of reality, far more than we can comprehend, and as such, there is way more to reality than we could possibly comprehend.


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: stefan]
    #1915597 - 09/14/03 03:57 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

To extrapolate.. reality is 'real' in the sense that we experience it (subjectively)..but we create that reality through our own outward projection of thought and action. The circumstances of life are an illusion... only temporary...mere obstacles and lessons to overcome. The real reality is wisdom gained through experiences, the joy shared, the connections made, and all things spirit which are eternal.


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Shroomism]
    #1915650 - 09/14/03 04:17 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

well aren't our thoughts creating reality?

since we're thinking up reality, and our thoughts are real, then isn't reality real?


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Strumpling]
    #1915661 - 09/14/03 04:21 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

Catch-22s are the nature of infinity :wink:
Paradox Universe


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Re: Reality isn't real [Re: Strumpling]
    #1915772 - 09/14/03 05:19 PM (13 years, 11 months ago)

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Strumpling said:since we're thinking up reality, and our thoughts are real, then isn't reality real?




what you think doesn't have to be real. I bet you have thoughts about things that never happened or even about things that really can't happen.

Like shroomism said in the post above yours reality is how we see the world. it's subjective for some people the reality might be different then for other people.

Do you know the story from Plato "the people in the cave"?
Here's it in short :smirk:
It's about people who are prisoners in a cave and since they were born they were chained and can only look one way: to a wall of the cave. Behind them is a fire and between them and the fire people are wakling and carrying things. They see nothing but shadows accompanied with sounds.
When you would release those rpisoners after years and let them see the 'real world'. They would prefer the shadows rather than the 'real' images because they've seen nothing but images for their whole life so that's their reality.


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