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Re: modern science and ancient mysticism are both wrong [Re: Poid]
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Blah blah blah... more living, less dicking around..


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Re: modern science and ancient mysticism are both wrong [Re: Poid]
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and I'm asking how you can know anything but your subjective experience of mass. You say logic, but logic is a subjective experience as well, so I don't see how that gets us out of this bind.


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Re: modern science and ancient mysticism are both wrong [Re: Kickle]
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Kickle said:
and I'm asking how you can know anything but your subjective experience of mass.

I think elephants have an intrinsic mass that exists before I measure it and understand it; my subjective experience of its mass has to come from somewhere.


Kickle said:
You say logic, but logic is a subjective experience as well, so I don't see how that gets us out of this bind.

I don't see the relevance of logic being a subjective experience; the fact is that logic denotes that elephants have mass, and the act of measuring it doesn't decrease or increase the value of its mass.

That's all I'm saying, that the act of measuring an elephant's mass does not decrease/increase the value of its mass.


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fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: modern science and ancient mysticism are both wrong [Re: Poid]
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And my own logic says I cannot possibly know that an elephant has mass outside my subjective experience of mass. I may be wrong, but id rather go with "I don't know this" than claim I know it to be true falsely.


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Re: modern science and ancient mysticism are both wrong [Re: Kickle]
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in absolute terms no one knows a goddamn thing.. all is speculation dependent upon a number of factors occurring at anyone one moment.. and that is why these discussions are for the most part..pointless..
now everyone lets get out and enjoy the day.. hope everyone's day is :sunny:


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