Noteworthy said:

What holds a Ghost to the ground?
Gravity I suppose. But if gravity is pulling them down, why arent they falling through the floor?
Someone might say 'because ghosts (or similar things) don't always pass through objects, they get to chose when to or not'.
This raises two problems:
1)This conlficts with many ghost or spirit depictions where they cannot interact with people through touch, and where they pass through objects.
2)If ghosts are chosing when to not go through walls, how come you never hear of the balancing act that it is for ghosts to maintain on the surface of earth! And the massive risk of falling into the earth if not careful.

Ok so maybe Ghosts arent affected by gravity? Well, sorry but if something is not affected by gravity it will simply propel off into space. The earth is rotating, moving arouhd the sun, which is moving aorund the centre of the milky way. Each place on earth is moving through a lot of space in the universe each second, but we have a sensation of stillness because we cannot sense massive movements of the planet in relation to other galaxies. We just sense the gravity of our own planet.

In conclusion:
Ghosts, or anything purporting to move through walls and be ethereal, MUST be able to control their non-material properties and continually avoid falling through the floor into the earth,
OR
They would fly off into space, unaffected by gravity...

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the bizzle said:

as far as the gravity argument... how come air doesn't go flying into space? what about pollen, etc?

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Pollen is not effected by gravity (it really is) because it is magically attracted to our sinus cavity as soon as it floats off a plant.

Icelander said:

Light and time are one and the same with gravity? OK show me how?

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dude, come on now. The only thing I meant was that of course all things are connected, because you assumed it had never occurred to me "Light and time can be effected by gravity. Where you been boy?"

Quote:

I go off what you say. The fucking words you put down and how you arrange them. If you want someone to think you mean something then you better do a much better job with being clear about it.

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nevermind the scenery, it's only bleeding
I envy the night, for its absence of light
doin thangs is doin thangs


sharks in these waters

Diploid said:

how come air doesn't go flying into space?

Beeeecause it has weight?

/duh

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I AM SWIM said:

i saw a ghost once and nothang held it to the ground, it was floating around doin' thangs and telling me and i told it then it did some magical ghost thangs, it's actually with me right now.

its a feelsgoodman ghost,


problem with ghosts is ppl are afraid of them, and we can all thank hollywood for that,

there are some ghosts, but not all of em are feelsbadmans

but it's all good, cuz these ghosts like to get u high, and they do a good job too, they can alter ur reality and make u trip out whenever they feel like it.

they are

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Noteworthy said:

In conclusion:
Ghosts, or anything purporting to move through walls and be ethereal, MUST be able to control their non-material properties and continually avoid falling through the floor into the earth,
OR
They would fly off into space, unaffected by gravity...

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So why can't it be the first one?

Noteworthy said:

What holds a Ghost to the ground?
Gravity I suppose. But if gravity is pulling them down, why arent they falling through the floor?
Someone might say 'because ghosts (or similar things) don't always pass through objects, they get to chose when to or not'.
This raises two problems:
1)This conlficts with many ghost or spirit depictions where they cannot interact with people through touch, and where they pass through objects.
2)If ghosts are chosing when to not go through walls, how come you never hear of the balancing act that it is for ghosts to maintain on the surface of earth! And the massive risk of falling into the earth if not careful.

Ok so maybe Ghosts arent affected by gravity? Well, sorry but if something is not affected by gravity it will simply propel off into space. The earth is rotating, moving arouhd the sun, which is moving aorund the centre of the milky way. Each place on earth is moving through a lot of space in the universe each second, but we have a sensation of stillness because we cannot sense massive movements of the planet in relation to other galaxies. We just sense the gravity of our own planet.

In conclusion:
Ghosts, or anything purporting to move through walls and be ethereal, MUST be able to control their non-material properties and continually avoid falling through the floor into the earth,
OR
They would fly off into space, unaffected by gravity...

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