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InvisibleDoctor_Dick
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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: Poid]
    #12806428 - 06/26/10 05:11 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

nope :smile:


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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: Doctor_Dick]
    #12806550 - 06/26/10 06:28 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

It's true, anything you say on the matter is deduced to pure speculation, however I wouldn't think it's beyond pondering.

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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: teknix]
    #12806829 - 06/26/10 08:32 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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teknix said:
It's true, anything you say on the matter is deduced to pure speculation, however I wouldn't think it's beyond pondering.




What is beyond pondering?


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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: blinkybill] * 1
    #12806887 - 06/26/10 08:49 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

beyondering


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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: the bizzle]
    #12807070 - 06/26/10 10:01 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

That which has not been pondered?

There is no way of knowing, because to know would result in the ponderance.

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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: Noteworthy]
    #12807094 - 06/26/10 10:09 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
Light and time can be effected by gravity. :lol: Where you been boy?




Pics, or it didn't happen.

OP, Seems like a "god of the gaps" sort of question, ghosts going through the floor. Until the ghost could be proven to have any level of mass or density, as we define it, the point is entirely moot. The supermassive black hole response was absolutely lateral to the point.

As the op has not responded to anything said in this post, ghosts are real. Such as Noteworthy.



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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: numonkei]
    #12807128 - 06/26/10 10:22 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)



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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: Icelander]
    #12809885 - 06/26/10 09:21 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

what i find odd is how that most people who DO believe in ghosts DONT believe in extraterrestrial life . it sounds rather psychotic :strokebeard3:


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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: the bizzle]
    #12809896 - 06/26/10 09:23 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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the bizzle said:

beyondering






Thats beautiful. I just had to quote you. Hope it enters the trippers glossary.


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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: blinkybill]
    #12810049 - 06/26/10 10:08 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Hard for me to explain why but I doubt ghosts are affected by anything
in this realm / dimension. Some say ghosts are spirits that do not know
they are dead or refusing to "move on" and such. That would make sense
to me becuase if all spirits just hung around here they would be a lot
more prevalent dont you think?? Why they are seen is beyond me at this
point but what I would like to know is that if said ghosts are here
because they do not know they are dead or choose not to move on then what
happens when the planet is no longer here?? Because one day it will not
be.

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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: DeadHearts]
    #12810110 - 06/26/10 10:25 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

then how do i know i'm not dead? :omgz:



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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: Envix]
    #12810199 - 06/26/10 10:53 PM (13 years, 8 months ago)

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Envix said:
then how do i know i'm not dead? :omgz:






Maybe we are all dead

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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: Poid] * 1
    #12811032 - 06/27/10 08:02 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Poid said:
Quote:

Noteworthy said:
In conclusion:
Ghosts, or anything purporting to move through walls and be ethereal, MUST be able to control their non-material properties and continually avoid falling through the floor into the earth,
OR
They would fly off into space, unaffected by gravity...


So why can't it be the first one? :confused:




It can be the first one. Another case of poid-reading-something-without-taking-into-consideration-the-whole-post?


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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: Noteworthy]
    #12811046 - 06/27/10 08:09 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

Lets clear some things up -

this thread is about a problem with ghosts.
more specifically it is a problem with any physical thing that is purported to pass through walls or other physical things.

So yes ghosts might be magnetic waves, but who has ever seen a ghost depicted as a wave? nope.

Yes ghosts might be in another realm. What does that even mean though? That means you couldnt see or hear them. Unless they are in OUR realm at least a little bit. It is nonsense to say that they exist purely in another realm because then we would have no access to them at all.

So they either exist in our physical realm

or mental realm.

there is that last possibility that they exist in the mental realm. In which case they merely get superimposed into the 'physical world' by our brain/mind.


This is ALL ABOUT things passing through other things.

To reiterate the point that was summarised so nicely by someone else -

IF something can pass through walls (and I mean actually pass through them rather than just looking like it in the mental realm) it must constantly prevent itself from passing through the floor, or alternatively it would be lost to space.

basic logic. Should not be taken as a refutation of ALL GHOSTS. This is looking at the dillema of something that can exist on earth and also pass through objects. Because existing on earth requires that gravity brought you to earth, if nothing else! and walls are the same as floors.


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Re: The problem with ghosts [Re: Noteworthy]
    #12811051 - 06/27/10 08:10 AM (13 years, 8 months ago)

everybody is dead on the internet, deadhearts :smile:


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