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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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"Procrustes in modern dress, the nuclear scientist will prepare the bed on which mankind must lie; and if mankind doesn't fit—well, that will be just too bad for mankind. There will have to be some stretching and a bit of amputation..."

-Aldous Huxley


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: fireworks_god]
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I see:super:


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L'enfer est plein de bonnes volontés et désirs

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
...the nuclear scientist will prepare the bed on which mankind must lie


Speak of the devil! :shocked: :satansmoking:


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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: fireworks_god]
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:einstein:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Poid]
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What if the robot is faster, smarter than the nuclear nuclear scientist:uhoh:


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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Then perhaps they will one day worship the human mind as their creator and saviour.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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That's why the nuclear scientist installed a self-destruct mechanism in the robot! :wink:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
That's why the nuclear scientist installed a self-destruct mechanism in the robot! :wink:


Does no good if the robot can override manual commands:shrug:


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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Well if this particular self-destruct mechanism was a separate apparatus attached to the robot's body which operated on a completely different system, then the robot would not be able to override it. :shrug:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Poid]
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If the robot is smart enough it would be able to overcome any human-designed limitations.


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: deCypher]
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In that case, the nuclear scientist can just destroy it with a rocket launcher or an EMP blast.


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Poid]
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It'd be an interesting battle.  Hopefully things don't turn out the way of Skynet or the Matrix.


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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: deCypher]
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We could prevent all that shit by not creating robots that are capable of destroying the human race.


"Every discovery in pure science is potentially subversive; even science must sometimes be treated as a possible enemy. Yes, even science"

- Mustapha Mond


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Poid]
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With humanity's insatiable curiosity and demand for more technological power I think it's inevitable.


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We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: deCypher]
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deCypher said:
With humanity's insatiable curiosity and demand for more technological power I think it's inevitable.


QFT  I think its gonna be a case of "curiosity killed the humans"


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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: deCypher]
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But our insatiable curiosity and demand for more technological power won't necesasrily beget super-intelligent robots bent on destroying the human race; who's to say that this type of robot is ever even going to be invented? :shrug:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: deCypher]
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Maybe it's our purpose to breathe life into machines that can become so autonomous, that they no longer need us, and in turn, destroy us completely, so that for eons, this world will be inhabited by concious machines, consequently, who will one day realize, flesh and bone requires less maintenance, in which, they create a race of humans, and teach them to .... did I just divide by zero?

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Poid]
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It wouldn't be that these super-intelligent robots would be necessarily malevolent or bent on destroying the human race; instead I'd say that we'd be mostly irrelevant and if they need more space or energy for processing power then we'd be as expendable as the ants we step on to build a new house.


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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Fraggin]
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Fraggin said:
...did I just divide by zero?


No, you just described the circle of 'life'! :robblerobble:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The answer to the philsophical revolution? The media. [Re: Poid]
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Poid said:
Fraggin said:
...did I just divide by zero?


No, you just described the circle of 'life'! :robblerobble:


That poses an interesting viewpoint. Would another form of intelligence view the human race as the human race views technology?

Should we then pay respects for our iphone that falls in the pool and say a mantra over it's dripping carcass before we dis-assemble it for recycling and the life that its to experience after it's destruction?

Edited by Fraggin (07/17/09 03:36 PM)

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