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Icelander's enlightenment.
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What I call enlightenment is becoming aware that you are pretty much completely programmed in your actions and responses. Then accepting it and getting on with living the most fun and humorous life you can. Or something like that.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Icelander]
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Sounds good


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Jesus loves you.

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: andrewss]
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unless you don't like fun and humor :rolleyes:


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On the scale of wibble to wobble...

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
What I call enlightenment is becoming aware that you are pretty much completely programmed in your actions and responses. Then accepting it and getting on with living the most fun and humorous life you can. Or something like that.


Does this have anything to do with disengaging identification with your mind?

And what is fun to you?

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Icelander]
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In your hypothesis, its either all or nothing.  You cannot be "pretty much" programmed.  You either are or are not.

In that case you cannot experience fun and humor unless you are programmed for it.

If it works for you, all the power to ya!


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What, you ask, was the beginning of it all?  And it is this...

Existence that multiplied itself
For sheer delight of being
And plunged into numberless trillions of forms
So that it might
Find
Itself
Innumerably.
-Sri Aubobindo

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Icelander]
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This sounds like switching to the "meta-programmer" circuit in Timothy Leary's "8 circuit" model. Do you go by those descriptions at all?

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Icelander]
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I have took the route of re-programming..
U got it easy :wink:


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Icelander]
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For me it's like the opposite. One's ability to get the 'right' glimpse on the moment to catch the chance to make one's outacting choice by decision and intention. I don't consider my choices to be programmed. I consider them 'quite' free, besides those natural urges to only be suspended, and worked with, not to have them been overcome by irgnorance, to not be overcomed by them  :smile:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

Edited by BlueCoyote (03/15/09 06:19 PM)

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Icelander]
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What makes you think we are pretty much programmed?  I think we can be, but I want to hear your view.  I think one of the best evidences of programming is habituation.  People are creatures of habit and old habits are hard to break.


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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Icelander]
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:yesnod:

agreed

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
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Enlightenment is the mastery of divine expression, for the most part.


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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Hubbub]
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mine is that it is good to have these glimpses.
more please.
of everything.


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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
What I call enlightenment is becoming aware that you are pretty much completely programmed in your actions and responses. Then accepting it and getting on with living the most fun and humorous life you can. Or something like that.


To me, enlightenment would be the things you mention.  But stopping trying to manipulate your experience by changing your programming in turn will loosen the programming's grip.  You begin to act more spontaneously.  Eventually you stop reacting all-together, and then you only act deliberately.  Then you are "free."  That's the idea anyway.  I know it works up to the "you act more spontaneously."  I now NOTICE when I react.  Instead of just reacting.  I know how the process works because of stopping my mind from wandering in meditation.  Eventually you catch it sooner and sooner and then you don't have to worry about it all.  You just don't wander.  Same deal here.  Eventually we'll stop reacting.

Holla.


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Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show, That the dear She might take some pleasure of my pain: Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know, Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain.

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: redgreenvines]
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Are you going on about pudding - again?! :mad:


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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Lakefingers]
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I agree that enlightenment involves humour

I dont know anyone who 'isnt into' fun and humour. Some people just dont have as much energy as others. Being 'in' on cosmic jokes is part of being a healthy unit

or something like that


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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Epigallo]
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bradley said:
Icelander said:
What I call enlightenment is becoming aware that you are pretty much completely programmed in your actions and responses. Then accepting it and getting on with living the most fun and humorous life you can. Or something like that.


Does this have anything to do with disengaging identification with your mind?

And what is fun to you?



I don't know how to disengage identification with my mind. Seems difficult or impossible.

Fun is what ever I enjoy.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Saidin]
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Saidin said:
In your hypothesis, its either all or nothing.  You cannot be "pretty much" programmed.  You either are or are not.

In that case you cannot experience fun and humor unless you are programmed for it.

If it works for you, all the power to ya!



There could be aspects of the self that are not programmed yet. Why not?

Of course I'm programmed for fun and humor as that seems part of our basic programming for survival and other things.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: jivJaN]
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jivJaN said:
I have took the route of re-programming..
U got it easy :wink:


Easy might be the best way and maybe the only way. However I've doe a lot of reprogramming but it's still a program when you are done. I never said one should not try to change if they prefer that.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Icelander's enlightenment. [Re: Mr. Mushrooms]
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Mr. Mushrooms said:
What makes you think we are pretty much programmed?  I think we can be, but I want to hear your view.  I think one of the best evidences of programming is habituation.  People are creatures of habit and old habits are hard to break.


You answered your question. Programs are created by repeating patterns or creating habits. There are countless examples of this in human culture. Most do not see their patterns and so believe them to be solid truths. This IMO is not very awake. If you think a pattern or habit is "truth" why would you try to alter it, searching for something more workable?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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