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My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection)
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This isn't a report of some frightening overdose on a research chemical with the tripper barely making it.

No, its a story of what most would consider a completely uninteresting dose of 2CE, and the completely unexpected result.

I've been tripping for 15 years now, and every once so often something utterly gobsmacking happens completely out of the blue - something that never ever happened before.
Last sunday, on a small dose of 2CE, this proved to be the case once more.

My best friend and I took 2CE, He took 12mg and I ended up taking 4mg, a dose which for me works out to be about as active as a gram of cubensis mushrooms, which to my high sensitivity is a good amount. His girlfriend was to be our sitter, in case issues needed working through.

The effects came slowly, building to full intensity over about 2:30 hours, and the effect itself was quite relaxing and tremendously slow, compared to the hectic nature mushrooms and LSD tend to have. It was in many ways similar to the mescaline experience we had weeks earlier with San Pedro cactus.

There proved to be very little going on for both of us, the psychedelic effects were almost generic. We were sitting wrapped in blankets, tripping in a comfortable way and calmly having a meaningful discusssion in complete darkness, while our sitter listened in and meditated to pass the time. The day before we had been her sitters, and there was much for her to meditate on.

My friend and I noticed unpleasant vasoconstriction from the 2CE, especially my friend with his higher dose was unpleasantly affected. I'm a cardiac patient and always have a bottle of sublingual nitroglycerin spray at hand to counter angina pectoris attacks. My (healthy) friend decided to want to try using that to counter his vasoconstriction, and took 800 micrograms of nitroglycerin sublingual, and I followed suit. For both of us the nitroglycerin's vasodilation proved to counter 2CE's vasoconstriction comfortably, but not completely.

As time progressed my friend decided to go to bed to try get to a deeper level meditatively, and I did the same, turning inward in near complete darkness, wrapped in a comfy blanket on their livingroom couch.

Up until then the 2CE had been both enjoyable and relatively uneventful. But all that was about to change, fast!

I gazed inward to observe sparse visuals. I believe I had my eyes closed for 10 minutes when suddenly something came from beyond, as we in holland say: "like a clap of thunder from a clear sky".

Suddenly as if a valve was opened wide I was flooded with memories, imagery and emotions. At first obscure, it soon became all too clear what was happening: I was being flooded with memories from a past life, from the life before this one.

I've always been a tad skeptic about "past life memories" but however real or illusory the phenomenon is - it happened to me.

Incredibly detailed memories that spanned all senses, sight, sound, touch, smell, taste it was all there, and all wrapped in strong emotions that felt 100% authentic.

My rational mind frowns at the thought of past life memories but the experience, the flood of sensations, was completely authentic, as if indeed I remembered it.

My name was Salim. I was a black orphaned child who lived homeless on the streets in sub-Saharan Africa. I lived in hunger, trying to survive, in the 1960s and early 1970s. I died by a lung ailment that made white slime froth from my mouth about 12-13 years old, to be reborn shortly after in my current life.

The memories came and came and at first I was overcome by the tragedy of it all and cried for well over half an hour, mourning my pastr life and agonized death, where I died so young starving and choking on my own fluids.

Though I believe in reincarnation, I never gave Karma much thought. This experience was chock full of unmistakable Karma. Much hopes and desires of that abysmally poor boy had I sought after and fulfilled in this life. Issues which then were important, carried over to this life. The story wasn't alien to me in the least bit, because so much of my current life which I couldnt put my fine on is a LOGICAL consequence of that past. There were parallels beyond belief, tiny ones and really big ones.

The defining word here is *authentic*. It felt so completely authentic with details so blatant and trivial, you just can't make that up.

This whole outpour lasted over an hour, then the faucet closed with the return of my friend.

Though I cried and cried for much of it, it at NO point was a "bad thing". It was a homecoming. It was remembering something long forgotten but ESSENTIAL to life as it is now.

The trip returned to more mundane matters, and hours went by. When my friend and his girlfrienmd went to bed, after 11 hours had passed, I decided to take a quarter gram of Psilocybe cyanescens mushrooms (typically containing about 3-4mg Psilocybin) to see if I could reconnect with the past life experience.

Could I ever!

Alone in the night, I partially regressed to being that young boy, while at the same time aware of whom I was now. Salim was absolutely overjoyed to be alive and was utterly amazed to find himself as a fully grown white man, staring at his/my arm and hand in utter amazement, making little dances of joy quite uncharacteristic of an obese white guy in his mid-30s :lol: and gasping a few equally uncharacteristic Allah Akbar's at the miracle of it all.

The regression was partial and I felt being both lives simultaneously. He looked through my eyes, when I ate something he tasted it it too.

And all the while memories poured in. Memories of staring at a torn poster of a Hindi cinema movie and being enthralled by all the wealth and glamour, as opposed to his own life of poverty, memories of his best friend Achmed/Ahmed (he couldnt read or write so I had to reconstruct phonetics) who was a bit older and watched over him like a brother, speaking to him saying things like: "Achmed - there IS life after death" and being convinced that all would be well if he could just find Achmed again.

Partially regressed I took pen and paper and wrote down memories as they came. Reading it sober, a few days after, it reads like it was both written by a young boy and grown man.

Later the experience faded, and I was convinced I will learn more from this in sessions to come.

I went and googled some verifiable things and indeed some words I remembered were in the Swahili language, as is the name, and the East African region where this is spoken indeed is Muslim to some extent.

I went to bed and slept well.

The next day I was high with excitement to have experienced the utterly unexpected, yet what I felt and feel is an important piece of the puzzle of my life.

To me its not completely important whether the experience related to authentic reincarnation or was a symbolic abstraction made in this life. It was a truly awesome experience that I feel did me quite some good.

An uneventful trip giving rise to what in every way feels like a past life recollection, a phenomenon I used to be skeptic about.
You are never too old to learn.

Mr. Alexander Shulgin, thank you for bringing this amazing molecule into this world.


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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Asante]
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great read.


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Man is timid and apologetic; he is no longer upright; he dares not say "I think," "I am," but quotes some saint or sage. He is ashamed before the blade of grass or the blowing rose.Man postpones or remembers; he does not live in the present, but with reverted eye laments the past, or, heedless of the riches that surround him, stands on tiptoe to foresee the future. He cannot be happy and strong until he too lives with nature in the present, above time
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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Asante]
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I read the whole thing and feel like a better person for it.  I have experienced similar, not just while tripping, but in my sober life, the 'co-consciousness' you shared with Salim especially rang true for me.  I encourage you to write more about Salim and his life experiences. 

I would love to try 2ce now, after reading this report.

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: MOTH]
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Quote:
I encourage you to write more about Salim and his life experiences.



I'm deeply satisfied by the trip and it can nourish me for a long time, but I'm aching to learn more of this! I'll meditate on it, but I think the next session won't be long in the coming.

I want to know it all! A book could come of it if I learn enough to warrant it.

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the 'co-consciousness' you shared with Salim especially rang true for me.



Its so striking! With the eating bit, I spent some time reassuring Salim that the famine was over. I feel part of my overeating & hoarding for survival habits are due to this past life of starvation and complete poverty.

Crazy details come in a whole new light with this experience. For instance, when indoors I like to wear flipflops. Always have, from childhood onward. Well it turned out Salim couldn't afford those and had to walk barefoot, which he really hated. It confronted him with just how poor he was. Wearing flipflops, a personal quirk that seems utterly trivial in this life, makes perfect sense when that former life is taken into account.

Real or symbolic - it sure felt genuine, as if a whole directory of memory popped open that had been closed for long.

2CE is a true gem, not just in my experience but you read it back in ODD over and over.


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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Asante]
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Great read, sounds like you had a life changing experience! Whenever I dream I'm someone else I always wonder if it could be another life.

What is 2CE anyway? Never heard of it.

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Asante]
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Awesome, WC!

I'm sure you want to dive right into this one...but I wonder if trying to experience other "lives" might yield a clearer answer on the validity of your experience. Not to mention, some "lives" further back in time or maybe even on other planets would be very interesting.

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Asante]
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Wow,
that must of been quite an experience!

Do you think its possible that this was some kind of time travel / telepathic experience?  Or do you think you and Salim are the same soul?

Thanks, very interesting.:sun:

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Ego Death]
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Quote:
What is 2CE anyway? Never heard of it.




2CE is a close analog of Mescaline. In my links in my signature click the PiHKAL link and find a treasure trove of psychedelics. Same goes with the TiHKAL link.

I don't want to chase after the experience fazdazzle, but I strongly feel that when the time is ripe more will be revealed. All I can do in trips and meditations is render myself susceptible and see what happens. You are right that the natural flow should not be forced.

Quote:
Do you think its possible that this was some kind of time travel / telepathic experience?  Or do you think you and Salim are the same soul?



If the experience is genuine, and it seemed as genuine as can be, Salim = Me, and he died and was reborn as me. Makes me wonder about how I will be reborn when I die, and whether this too will be immediately after my death - as it appears to have been this time.

Some of Salim's wishes came true in this life. Which of mine will come true in the next?

If the Hindus are right in that true neutrality leads to an end to reincarnation (samsara) then I have a loooong way to go before my Moksha comes.
And quite frankly, as much as life can suck - I don't want to be erased from the wheel of reincarnation :heart:


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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Asante]
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wow

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Asante]
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Wiccan_Seeker said:
And quite frankly, as much as life can suck - I don't want to be erased from the wheel of reincarnation :heart:



Rebirth is usually talked about as if it's a negative thing.  I'm not sure I would want to be non-existent if I had the choice, either.

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Sleepwalker]
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wow... i wish everyone could trigger this on command or something... i'd be interested to find out about my past lives...


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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Bridgeburner]
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Regression hypnosis

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Asante]
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Fantastic, Wiccan!  Thanks for sharing this.  I've had similar sorts of experiences, though not quite in the depth that you've described here.

As far as the wheel of rebirth: Most of us probably have a long way to go before we attain Nibbana, or Moksha, or whatever you would call the final end of suffering.  My (very limited) understanding is that we have to give up the desire for name-and-form.  From the craving for name-and-form, all suffering arises.  But who gives up this craving?  I don't know.

:cheers:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Lion]
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I'm definitely a name-craver.  I see or hear someone's name and immediately I start to fantasize and imagine what that person might be like.  Even if the person doesn't exist in corporeal form on this planet, if I get a name, I sometimes can sense what energies might be associated with it.  Sometimes this can balloon and grow into corresponding with an actual entity attached to the name. 

Pretty sure I WANTED to be reborn.  I think I have a life-habit, spiritually.  I know that I am a habitual user of many things - I'm sure being reborn constantly throughout the eons is included in that. 

How do I quit?  I'm not sure I want to, you know? 

Isn't suffering a choice?

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: MOTH]
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I think a Buddhist would tell you that if you want to be reborn into Samsara, you do not understand Samsara.  As far as Hindu views, I think the same goes: If you desire anything other than Moksha, you are missing the point.

However....I have no idea what that means.  I'm just repeating what I've heard.

I want to believe this human life is worth it. :laugh:


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“Strengthened by contemplation and study,
I will not fear my passions like a coward.
My body I will give to pleasures,
to diversions that I’ve dreamed of,
to the most daring erotic desires,
to the lustful impulses of my blood, without
any fear at all, for whenever I will—
and I will have the will, strengthened
as I’ll be with contemplation and study—
at the crucial moments I’ll recover
my spirit as was before: ascetic.”

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Lion]
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Me too...

though apparently Moksha is some GOOD SHIT.  :crazy2: :wink:

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Asante]
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Wow, awesome experience.

Just reading experiences like this can have such a huge effect on  breaking down the barriers in our minds regarding what's "possible".

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Asante]
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I'm wondering what amount of time there was between salims death and your birth?

Not that its really of any significance to your experience.  I'm just wondering (hypothetically) how long our souls in the void.

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Re: My past life came back to me on 4mg of 2CE (trip report/past life recollection) [Re: Ego Death]
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My understanding is that the reality you exist in inbetween lives is outside of what we experience as time.  This means that you could spend what would feel like a hundred years inbetween two incarnations and then be reinicarnated back to earth one second after your last physical body died.

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