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Praying to the Wrong God
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For the sake of argument, we shall pretend that there is, in fact, a 'correct god' to be prayed to.

Does God really respond to puffs of air made by monkey mouths?

Let's say I pick Jesus. So I picture a handsome Norwegian male with beard, long hair and blue eyes and I phonetically call him 'Gee-zuss'.

It is doubtful that Jesus looked Norwegian. In fact if we had a time machine, no one alive today could pick him out of a line-up.

It is doubtful that his name was phonetically prounced the way I designated.

What if I pray in the wrong direction?

Seems it is impossible to pray to the 'correct god' even if he exists.


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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (06/27/08 11:55 PM)

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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
What if I pray in the wrong direction?
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Seems it is impossible to pray to the 'correct god' even if he exists.


Perhaps that is why "most" prayers don't seem to get answered....    :ohwell:


>^;;^<


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I'll be your midnight French Fry....  :naughty:

"The most important things in life that are often ignored, are the things that one cannot see...."
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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: PhanTomCat]
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For the sake of argument, can god be petitioned with prayer?

Should our prayers be answered?

It is doubtful that Jesus looked Norwegian. In fact if we had a time machine, no one alive today could pick him out of a line-up.

This is precisely why it was arranged this way. To prevent this from happening.

:assimilate:  :uptosomething:


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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: figmentfragment]
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figmentfragment said:
For the sake of argument, can god be petitioned with prayer?

Should our prayers be answered?

It is doubtful that Jesus looked Norwegian. In fact if we had a time machine, no one alive today could pick him out of a line-up.

This is precisely why it was arranged this way. To prevent this from happening.

:assimilate:  :uptosomething:


Perhaps prayer is simply a survival tool used by man to find hope in times of uncertainty. I think we confess and pray to an imaginative figure to cleanse our own guilt and restore innocence so we may continue our journey. With that being said no one shall undermine another individuals sense of hope or belief. WE are still the ones who pave the path forward, however we allow ourselves to believe a divine force is driving our good intentions.

Edited by Azagthoth (06/28/08 02:58 AM)

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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Yes, this IMO is highly likely.

But I also wonder, if it was possible to have all our prayers answered, if this would be a good thing.


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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: figmentfragment]
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figmentfragment said:
Yes, this IMO is highly likely.

But I also wonder, if it was possible to have all our prayers answered, if this would be a good thing.


Faith in ones self or divine figure, will eventually answer ones own dreams and prayers. I think the "lost souls" are just victims of intense social conditioning to the point were all faith has been lost.

Edited by Azagthoth (06/28/08 03:13 AM)

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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: figmentfragment]
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Prayer appears as an external device, yet really its magic is internal. When people put their hope in "God" they are essentially creating their own alter-ego to dump their worries in. Any positive effect from said prayer comes from within, a sort of self-motivation. I think without the whole concept of deity mankind would be a hopeless bunch..

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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: AstralHippie]
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AstralHippie said:
Prayer appears as an external device, yet really its magic is internal. When people put their hope in "God" they are essentially creating their own alter-ego to dump their worries in. Any positive effect from said prayer comes from within, a sort of self-motivation. I think without the whole concept of deity mankind would be a hopeless bunch..


yes, yes, yes.

I get this concept. I also find it quite true for myself...

but I was saying, "for the sake of argument..." in the scenario that there was a god to pray to, and that you could have your prayers answered, unconditionally.


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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: figmentfragment]
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figmentfragment said:
AstralHippie said:
Prayer appears as an external device, yet really its magic is internal. When people put their hope in "God" they are essentially creating their own alter-ego to dump their worries in. Any positive effect from said prayer comes from within, a sort of self-motivation. I think without the whole concept of deity mankind would be a hopeless bunch..


yes, yes, yes.

I get this concept. I also find it quite true for myself...

but I was saying, "for the sake of argument..." in the scenario that there was a god to pray to, and that you could have your prayers answered, unconditionally.


This will be nothing more then imagination. I too wish there was a fix all end all solution, but life wouldn't have much meaning than. A god that gave one everything would be have a flock of fucking spoiled sheep.

Edited by Azagthoth (06/28/08 03:40 AM)

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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: Azagthoth]
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Unconditional prayer would be quite scary. Just think of all the negative prayers people put out (usually to harm other people.)

We could have a prayer war! You going down..

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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: AstralHippie]
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Yeah, prayers don't get answered because they're all addressed to the wrong gods. All gods are false except the Sumerian god Enki. Who knew? :shrug:

and possibly Ra


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I know... that just the smallest
                                                part of the world belongs to me
You know... I'm not a blind man
                                                    but truth is the hardest thing to see

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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: zouden]
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Heil Enki.
And Ra.

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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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What's wrong with cute nowegian guys? Not that I'd worship one. That's just creepy.

And it doesn't work either. Worship is in the actions we take, not the waffle we make.


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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: figmentfragment]
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For the sake of argument, can god be petitioned with prayer?


Jim Morrison sez no.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: AstralHippie]
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AstralHippie said:
Unconditional prayer would be quite scary. Just think of all the negative prayers people put out (usually to harm other people.)

We could have a prayer war! You going down..


Not to mention a vast array of other miscellaneous impulsive and generally shortsighted prayers.

*cringes*

If at different points of my life, my prayers had been "answered", I may be a very different person today.
I am not convinced for the better.


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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
For the sake of argument, can god be petitioned with prayer?


Jim Morrison sez no.


Really? When?
I want dates, times and photographic evidence.

:hehehe:

I didn't know you could channel. :what: :tourettes:


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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
What if I pray in the wrong direction?

Seems it is impossible to pray to the 'correct god' even if he exists.


This is actually not a problem.

God has their voice mail forwarded to the current address.


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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Idolisation


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: BlueCoyote]
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Well, if he always has been maybe he is just hard of hearing.  Or perhaps he's just constantly distracted by the valley girl eye candy that utters "O.M.G" every other sentence.


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Re: Praying to the Wrong God [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Not gonna pretend I read anything but the OP.

You know it's the wrong God if you're praying to him. It can only be the right God if he's praying to you.

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