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Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected!
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We have a problem of compartmentalizing our sciences and spiritual beliefs to the point we cannot see the big picture!

I just finished reading this book(a page turner, read it within a 2 hour period), and I feel compelled to share it with other open minded people. A lot of the information in it the average person would dismiss as "crazy", yet a higher part of me wants to accept it as undeniable truth. Looking around at the world and all the information the internet age has brought us, humanity is truly waking up and braking out of the shackles of ignorance.

I'd like some other people to read a chapter or so, and maybe we can get an interested discussion going.

The books called 'Fringe Knowledge for Beginners' by Montalk.
You can read it via a PDF file: http://montalk.net/files/fringeknowledgeWEB.pdf

It covers all the basics from the alien agenda, to the positive beings that are on our side of the fight. It also talks a lot about the power of the mind, and our best tool is knowledge and understanding how the mind works. Please give it a glance, it may strike your interest.

If at least one person gets a fraction of the feeling I got out of this book... it was worth my time for this post. :smile:

Edited by c0sm0nautt (05/27/08 12:45 PM)

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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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yet a higher part of me wants to accept it as undeniable truth


Ah yes, the undeniable 'need to believe' so typical of those who discard critical thinking in exchange for sailing on the fanta sea.

Truth is not determined by how cool something sounds or if it 'resonates', but on whether it has any basis in reality.


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Any truth is going to be ridiculed and "debunked" at first, especially one that threatens how we live and the status quo.

Just understanding the possibilities of our existence is enough to make my head spin, Montalk just materialized a lot of my own thoughts into a tangible book.

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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Perhaps in the proper context of archetypal elements of the psyche...

Saucer as Oversoul ala Mr. Mckenna??

Talk to me.:mushroom2:


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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Any truth is going to be ridiculed and "debunked" at first


This is total nonsense. 'Truth' with basis and substance has no problem being accepted. Garbage has a much more difficult time.

BTW, how many puppet accounts do you have now?


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Using your face on mars for example, don't you think it is just as easy for NASA scientists to photoshop the image to make it appear not real?

Considering that type of information, that intelligent life existed or exists on mars would throw the status quo such a curve ball it would mean chaos for the closed minded.

Puppet accounts? This is the second thread I've posted on this forum ever. When you can't attack what I'm saying you attack me? Maybe your an alien Mantid attempting to spread disinformation when there is truth to be learned! :smile:

"The most common alien types are the grays, reptilians, mantids and nordics.* Grays are short robotic
beings with large heads, pale skin, and dark eyes. Reptilians are tall intelligent beings with slit pupils and scaly skin. Mantids look like man-sized praying mantises. Nordics are indistinguishable from humans but tend to be more..."

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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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Using your face on mars for example, don't you think it is just as easy for NASA scientists to photoshop the image to make it appear not real?



No, there are thousands of people involved with the NASA project(s).

Why would one believe fuzzy shadows on a rock equates to alien life and massive conspiracies unless they have some form of mental illness?

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When you can't attack what I'm saying...


Fish in a barrel, brother. :lol:


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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We have a problem of compartmentalizing our sciences and spiritual beliefs to the point we cannot see the big picture!

Oh I see the big picture all right, but seem to have missed it in this post.:monkeydance:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
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Any truth is going to be ridiculed and "debunked" at first


This is total nonsense. 'Truth' with basis and substance has no problem being accepted. Garbage has a much more difficult time.

BTW, how many puppet accounts do you have now?


Does the concept of evolution have substance? The world being round? The idea of the Sun being the center of our solar system had a lot of evidence supporting it at the time of its introduction.. and how did that go over again?


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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The big picture=

Secret agents mobbing around in 'alien reproduction vehicles' trying to turn the 2000 year page on this ancient hand-me-down reality myth.

Like its up there still??

When I see an alien...  I'll expect a dude in a suit, and when he ain't got fruit...  I'll know its just another pawn playin the flute.

Perhaps its all real...  And...  Open the {CASE}...  Deal or no Deal??:uptosomething:

Some toadstools for the fools??  Fuck the ghoul's rules.

No more beady eyed fuck with the fish hat at bat.  If he ain't eatin em he ain't no medium.

If he ain't handin em out he ain't no pitcher's spout.  Ready for the headline bout??

A man of 'God' has no easy way out when he takes the 'accepted' route.  Been had??  Feel bad??  Let's blame dad.  Mom thinks its rad.

Oh, sorry...  Aliens?? 

Yes.  No.  Both.  :thumbup::thumbdown:

Communication??  For sure.  Coming from the external??  Nope.:sad:

Contact??  Yup.  Quite the paradox.  Out there??  Not that I've seen.  In here??  Most definitely.


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: WScott]
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I was talking about rational people. The belief-bound may be discounted as facts rarely have any effect.

If I propose two theories, would you lean towards the one with the most or the least supporting evidence?


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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I couldn't agree more.

There is NOTHING more spiritual than fiction.

So, the alien agenda, as proposed by you... is indeed VERY spiritual.

It is also, bullshit.


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: Rose]
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'It is also, bullshit.'

But...  Its like the REAL good bullshit that'll twist your mind into bringing it to life.



The alien:  A magical linguistic construct that when believed allows for a line of communication to open between the subconscious (your pet alien) and ego structure.

Father...
Guides...
Masters...
Ascended Masters...
Angels...
Demons...
Fairies...

Perhaps we were trained away from our own unconscious minds over the course of thousands of years and the only way to reconnect is with a good BULLSHIT story??

One BULLSHIT story deserves another...:uptosomething:


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: backfromthedead]
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If there is alien life and an alien agenda... the author of this book has no way of knowing.

And THAT makes it spiritual.


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: Rose]
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Cervantes said:
If there is alien life and an alien agenda... the author of this book has no way of knowing.

And THAT makes it spiritual.


Or BULLSHIT...:lol:

I've got my fingers crossed...  Show me some (bull)shit.:box:


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
I was talking about rational people. The belief-bound may be discounted as facts rarely have any effect.

If I propose two theories, would you lean towards the one with the most or the least supporting evidence?


A rational person, in my view, would look into the sky on a clear night, observe the countless amount of stars visible to the human eye, and conclude, based on such things (among others) as there being patterns interwoven through both microscopic and macroscopic levels of the physical universe and the ability for life to thrive in such 'inhospitable' locations on Earth like acidic steam vents and the dark, freezing waters of deep sea trenches to conclude that it is not only a possibility, but a probability that there is life elsewhere in the universe. This is obviously not proof, however it should be enough to warrant an open mind towards such ideas.

I've seen pictures of faces, pyramids and cities in photographs that claim to be of the surface of Mars, but it is hard to count on the legitimacy of such things with the advent of the internet. I've haven't been to Mars yet.. so I don't have much of an opinion on the matter. On the other hand, I have heard news of ancient oceans and rivers (indicated by the dry beds, I think) that had existed on Mars, so who knows, maybe a civilization was able to sustain itself on the red surface - be at a civilization of bacteria or humans.

I would lean towards the one with the most evidence.. but remain open to the possibility of existing evidence awaiting to be found (unless the theory is irrational, of course :tongue:).


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: WScott]
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duh


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: Icelander]
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We're all aliens.


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: Ginseng1]
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Ginseng1 said:
We're all aliens.


Personally I feel rather alienated.

Where are all you aliens??:(

Should we meet up and stage this thing proper??

Like...  Somebody gather the animals and build an Ark.

This Flood...  Then blood??

Like...  Hey, its what you need...  FEED.

We could at least toy with the beliefs of the beast.  Grrr...:uptosomething:


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Re: Alien Agenda and Spirituality are interconnected! [Re: Rose]
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Cervantes said:
I couldn't agree more.

There is NOTHING more spiritual than fiction.

So, the alien agenda, as proposed by you... is indeed VERY spiritual.

It is also, bullshit.


:thumbup:... :thumbdown:


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