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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: What do aliens... [Re: jakked]
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people dont believe jesus dies for animals on earth, so why would it matter if there were aliens if animals dont play a quesiton in?
it wouldnt affect the argument

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Re: What do aliens... [Re: spud]
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Jesus didn't die to rid the world of sin. He died while trying to enlighten others, and his misinformed followers, namely some of his appostles, made this arguement up after his death. That is why Jesus never mentions his death as a key role in his plan, and even prayed to God to somehow spare his life. Or this is what I've read anyways, it's impossible to guess what really happened...


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Re: What do aliens... [Re: deff]
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not impossible to guess, impossible to know

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Re: What do aliens... [Re: spud]
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I'm not Christian so I did a few minutes of research. A through examination would require a lot more time.


Pulled this from:
http://www.av1611.org/why.html

Got this from google:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=why+jesus+died

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The Payment of Sin . . .

To cover the sin of Adam and Eve, THE BLOOD of an innocent lamb was shed. (Gen. 3:21)

" . . . John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold THE LAMB of God, which TAKETH AWAY THE SIN of the world." John 1:29
Friend, Jesus Christ shed His blood on the cross to pay the penalty for YOUR sin!

"Who his own self bare OUR SINS in his own body on the tree,. . ." 1 Peter 2:24

" . . . Unto him that loved us, and washed us from OUR SINS in his own BLOOD," Revelation 1:5b
What can wash away my sin?

NOTHING BUT THE BLOOD OF JESUS!

Not church membership, not sacrements, not baptism, not good works,


" . . . without shedding of BLOOD is no remission." Hebrews 9:22
"But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him." Romans 5:8-9
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I can't speak on the accuracy of these quotes. Just thought they may shed some light. Like I said I'm not a Christian.

Also regarding Jesus not dieing for animals are you then saying that Aliens are like animals? What if aliens have their own god? Who's right? Can two Gods exist?

I would think Christians would say there is only one.

Tough questions to answer!!! Good stuff!!!

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Re: What do aliens... [Re: jakked]
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Interestingly enough, the Mormons apparently believe that each planet has its own God, so I presume they also believe that each planet has its own savior too.


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"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

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Re: What do aliens... [Re: jakked]
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If aliens exist, one of Christianity?s core Ideas (which is that Jesus Christ gave up his life for humans) comes in question.

So, if someday we discover intelligent life outside of our planet or visa versa, did Jesus Christ die for the ?Aliens? and us?




Here is an interesting verse from the Christian Bible which may relate to your question:

"I lay down my life for the sheep. And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd."

John 10:15-16

*Disclaimer* I am not pushing Christianity or dogma on anyone. I am a big fan of Thomas Jefferson whose Bible consisted solely of the words of Jesus. I do believe in Christ consciousness which is not limited to any particular people, place, or time.


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I am what Willis was talkin' bout.

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Re: What do aliens... [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Everything above the 4th density is non-physical altogether.. it is purely spiritual energy.


I've read this "theory" before on another thread of yours, and i always wanted to ask you:
So you think it's possible to be aware and living without a body? How so? Are these what some call Light beings?


Besides that, I don't think all this is just a theory of yours, to me, its almost like you were speaking truth. Did you really come up with this or did your 'alien encounters' help you out?

Anyways, it makes sense to me. I'd say philosophy is an effort towards spirituality. Philosophy is third density beings' access to fourth density. I don't know if this makes sense.


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