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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: NiamhNyx]
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Yeah, but usually by definition you will think your opinion is THE correct one, otherwise why would you hold that opinion.

Example: I don't think there is a god. However, it would be foolish and illogical for me to say I KNOW there isn't a god.


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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: g00ru]
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No, I may think my opinion is better, but not necessarily THE correct one. It may be a fine distinction, but it is an important one nonetheless. This way I can recognize that your view is rational and reasonable considering your experience and value system, but I can still think mine is better. If I didn't think it was better I probably wouldn't hold it.

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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: NiamhNyx]
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I think we're saying the same thing.


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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: g00ru]
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haha, probably.

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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: g00ru]
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guruu said:
Either way, it's still logic. And much of the time there is a solution inductive reasoning can bring you too that is infinitely superior to any alternative.


Please offer me an example where the conclusion: "All violinists play the violin" through deductive reasoning is not as good as an inductive reasoning process deriving the same conclusion


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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: All We Perceive]
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You don't need an inductive reasoning process to come to a conclusion like that. The premise is contained in the conclusion and needs no other support. Of course all violonists play violin; no one in thier right mind would argue that. It's purely deductive.

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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: Love Cap]
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Logic is not a method of gathering information, it is a method of discerning irrelevant/false/misleading conclusions about the information one gathers via perception and intuition.

YA: The opposite of death is not birth, it is mitosis.  :wink:

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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: Veritas]
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Quote:
The opposite of death is not birth, it is mitosis.




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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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westerners and easterners are wrong, the hedonists say that orgasm is the opposite of death.

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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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No, orgasm is the opposite of watching golf on TV.  :lol:

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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: Veritas]
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:lol:


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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: NiamhNyx]
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Eh, valid point - it was 4am :P

Meant to say "violinists play violin" ... deductive reasoning here is going to be superior to inductive reasoning for how "unshakable" the truth is. The statement is simply illustrating that inductive reasoning is, in fact, not "infinitely better" than deductive reasoning.

In any case, I have heard some mention of talk of deductive reasoning collapsing into inductive reasoning regarding philosophy of science. Anyone know anything about this?


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Re: Validity isn't always truth. [Re: All We Perceive]
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All We Perceive said:
Eh, valid point - it was 4am :P

Meant to say "violinists play violin" ... deductive reasoning here is going to be superior to inductive reasoning for how "unshakable" the truth is. The statement is simply illustrating that inductive reasoning is, in fact, not "infinitely better" than deductive reasoning.

In any case, I have heard some mention of talk of deductive reasoning collapsing into inductive reasoning regarding philosophy of science. Anyone know anything about this?


Well the farther out you get the more it becomes inductive.

But I don't really see where you're going with that analogy; it doesn't really pertain.

I wasn't even arguing against deductive reasoning.


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