Tchan909 said:

Isn't a "chakra" an abstract center of energy in the body? Not a specific organ, body, or system, but just a hub of sensation.

Why do we have to be so combative when discussing abstract concepts that everybody experiences differently?

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Rahz said:

Get them meanest, nastiest UFC fight you can find... and watch it. As you watch it, pay attention to how your solar plexus feels. It will "light up" over brutality, among other things. You will feel an "energetic vibration" emanating from your solar plexus, that feels quite good, (or bad, if violence sickens you). This is why people like watching violent sport. Congrats, you will have found a chakra.

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I have a UFC re-run DVR'ed from last Saturday night, I will give it a shot when I watch it....
But usually while watching such sports, I end up all tense, ducking, and dodging like I am playing a first person shooter game.... 
Kinda~ like when I find myself holding my breath when someone in a movie goes under water....   


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Diploid said:

to see if they could feel her life energy when they could not see its source.

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Diploid said:

Aura healers and chakra healers have been practicing their craft under different names for centuries. In Japan the practice of energy healing is known as reiki. They just wave their hands over the patient and "feel" the energy moving through the chakras.  The patient feels it, too. Great stuff but what’s really going on? How did so many different people independently discover energy healing? It must be because there really is energy that can be manipulated to bring about healing, right? Not necessarily.

In 1996, nine year old Emily Rosa tested 21 therapeutic touch (TT) practitioners to see if they could feel her life energy when they could not see its source. The test was very simple and seems to clearly indicate that the subjects could not detect the life energy of the little girl’s hands when placed near theirs. They had a 50% chance of being right in each test, yet they correctly located Emily's hand only 44% of the time in 280 trials. If they can’t detect the energy, how can they manipulate or transfer it? What are they detecting? Dr. Dolores Krieger, one of the creators of TT, has been offered $1,000,000 by James Randi to demonstrate that she, or anyone else for that matter, can detect the human energy field. So far, Dr. Krieger has refused to be tested.

In 1996, the James Randi Educational Foundation offered $742,000 to anyone who could demonstrate an ability to detect a "human energy field" under conditions similar to those of our study. Although more than 80,000 American practitioners claim to have such ability, only one person attempted to demonstrate it. She failed by scoring equal to random chance, and the offer, now at $1 million, has no further takers despite extensive recruiting efforts, including a direct appeal to Dr. Krieger.

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Sorry, 44% is an F.

You can ignore the results of this careful testing. It would just be more evidence that chakras are a demonstration of human self-deception at its best.

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I've EXPERIENCED them and sensed them in others.

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Middleman said:

Most talk is cheap, some is cheaper.

Some things are strictly subjective that's why it's called Mysticism, not Scientism...

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Rahz said:

It's just when a "debater" basically craps on those who can actually feel their chakras, I don't really view it as debating, at least not the kind I like.

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Rahz said:

Long post

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It doesn't seem like there are many people in here who want to hear what you have to say. However I'll let you know right now that you've made an excellent post, it carried a lot of meaning for me and I'm feeling motivated to give meditation more serious consideration in my daily life. You have appealed to me in a way like reading an exciting new book.

Since you've started, how many times have you meditated a day, and for how long each time? Have you used psychedelics since or during and how has that affected your results for better or worse? I have done some research on meditation and what would you suggest for a beginner like me? Most of what I have read suggests 2-3 40 minute sessions a day for unmistakable, noticeable progress, or at minimum one 40 minute session daily. What goals have you set for yourself to help keep yourself on a path of sticking to your meditation sessions every day?

Thanks for your help and inspiration. Peace. Keep your head up, for every 10 skeptics there is someone who finds meaning in what you say. In my opinion that is worth it. Thanks.

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Something else I can relate is my experience with skin conductivity response. Two electrodes I attach to myself that measures my bodies resistance to electricity. When I focus on a chakra, and manifest emotional energy, my skins electrical conductivity spikes way up. The more open a chakra is, the more the graph goes up. I can close the chakra and watch the graph descend. This in itself is proof that I'm able to manipulate emotional energy on the level of chakras, chakras being the -mechanisim- I'm using to express my emotions. They are not the emotions themselves, in the same way a faucet is not the water.

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Is this something that would be possible for you to record on camera? The benefits of meditation are already scientifically proven, as well as physical changes of the brain over time and electromagnetic activity inside it (CAT scans of someone meditating, etc..) but having this sort of information to add to the plate would be neat and could give the skeptics just a little bit more to chew on.


5 stars for you my friend.