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Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras...
    #781930 - 07/28/02 12:58 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: World Spirit]
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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: World Spirit]
    #782133 - 07/28/02 02:22 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

In the interests of being completely lazy and not researchng this topic......what is Chakras??


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    #782173 - 07/28/02 02:44 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

In a nutshell....vortices of energy through which energy flows both in and out of the body. There are thousands of chakras in the body but most literature focuses on the 7 main ones starting from the bottom of the spine to the top of the head. An accupuncture point is a chakra.


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    #782179 - 07/28/02 02:47 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds interesting......new to me also...
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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: ]
    #782192 - 07/28/02 02:54 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

How would people have ever discovered chakras? It just sounds like something somebody made up to me...


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    #782222 - 07/28/02 03:11 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: RebelSteve33]
    #782622 - 07/28/02 07:36 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

So far I can only view my chakras with my 2 eyes closed, with my "third eye" sensing them. It's not "seeing" in the usual sense, but more of a mixture between seeing and feeling.


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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: World Spirit]
    #782861 - 07/28/02 09:47 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I found this on rectal attunement... it's for re-aligning the colonic (ass) chakra.

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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: World Spirit]
    #782924 - 07/28/02 10:11 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Let the ad hominems begin.
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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: World Spirit]
    #783451 - 07/29/02 08:03 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

How about reading this work: "A Phenomenological Adaptation of the Tibetan Buddhist Doctrine of Psychic Centers to a Metatheoretical Hierarchy of Human Motivation." It reads a lot easier than its title, which was published by Microfilms International in 1983, 222 pages. It is my Ph.D. dissertation - I'll lend you a copy


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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: World Spirit]
    #783603 - 07/29/02 09:48 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Enter...

An excellent book as an overall resource regarding the
7 chakras and auras is by Barbara Ann Brennan, entitled
Hands of Light ~ A Guide to Healing Through the Human
Energy Field. Published by Bantam Books

"Barbara Brennan is a practicing healer, psychotherapist and
scientist. She was a research scientist for NASA a the Goddard
Space Flight Center following her completion of her M.S. in
Atmospheric Physics from the University of Wisconsin."

I practice an energy healing modality by the name of Reiki, and
have found the latter text to be invaluable to my work.

As has been stated in this thread, there are many chakras in the
body. However, there are 7 major chakras beginning at the root
and terminating at the crown, and there are 21 minor chakras.

Root Chakra - Red - located @ the perineum (between the anus
and genitals)
Sacral Chakra - Orange - located just below the belly button in
approximation with the sacral area.
Solar Plexus Chakra - Yellow - locate midway between the belly
button and chest.
Heart Chakra - Green - located mid chest area
Throat Chakra - Blue - located in throat region
Forehead (3rd Eye) Chakra - Indigo - located just above and between eyes
Crown Chakra - Violet or White - locate at top of head.

The chakras have front and rear aspects, and govern specific areas of
the body. The chakras of the auric body have 3 main functions:

1.They bring energy into the auric body from the Universal Energy Field,
which in turn energizes the physical body.

2. They help develop self-conciousness.

3. They help transmit energy between auric levels

The body has 7 major chakras and also has 7 auric levels. Each auric level
has its own set of chakras. Energy is transmitted from each layer through
its set of chakras.

Hopefully this information has been useful for you.

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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: Peaceful_Nomad]
    #783688 - 07/29/02 10:35 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

"Root Chakra - Red - located @ the perineum (between the anus
and genitals)"

hehehe the chode chakra......

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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: World Spirit]
    #783757 - 07/29/02 11:12 AM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Enter...

In understanding the location and function of the 7 main chakras, a
health professional can treat their client Holistically. Western medicine
traditionally treats physical symptoms and rarely looks at the cause of dis-ease
as a condition of the body, mind and soul.

I am a Licensed Massage Therapist. Routinely I find individuals who have
a structural imbalance, where their shoulders forward protracted, causing
a rounded upper back and subsequent muscular pain. A majority of these
individuals have had some sort of emotional pain, and the protracting of the
shoulders is common in protecting the heart chakra from further pain.

In having the knowledge of the chakras and how to treat them (Reiki), I can
not only attend to the physical pain and structural imbalances of my client, but
also deal with the balancing of the heart chakra. Thus treating my client in a
holistic fashion.

Make sense?

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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: Peaceful_Nomad]
    #783919 - 07/29/02 12:37 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Routinely I find individuals who have a structural imbalance, where their shoulders forward protracted,
From sitting hunched at a desk staring into a computer screen for way too many hours.

A majority of these individuals have had some sort of emotional pain...
ALL human beings have had some sort of emotional pain.

In having the knowledge of the chakras and how to treat them (Reiki),
So you got this "knowledge" from a book or a Reiki teacher and they got it where? There is NO WAY to study chakras. In physiology, anyone can study the spine and come up with the same number of vertebrae. In Chakraology, people claim there to be anywhere from 0 to an infinite number of chakras depending on who you ask. So again, how can one "study" the chakras?

I can not only attend to the physical pain and structural imbalances of my client,
I think that is great!

but also deal with the balancing of the heart chakra. Thus treating my client in a
holistic fashion. Make sense?

No. It is impossible to measure the balance of a heart chakra before and after your treatment, nor to get any type of validation.




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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: Sclorch]
    #784030 - 07/29/02 01:24 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

I found this on rectal attunement... it's for re-aligning the colonic (ass) chakra.

Sorry, but I have to say this...You're an idiot.


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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: Zahid]
    #784047 - 07/29/02 01:33 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry, but I have to say this...

You have no free will?!


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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: Swami]
    #784056 - 07/29/02 01:38 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

You have no free will?!

Heh, let me rephrase that, you are also an idiot.[.


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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: Zahid]
    #784067 - 07/29/02 01:45 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

you are also an idiot

Please teach me how to become as spiritual and loving as you.


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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: Swami]
    #784076 - 07/29/02 01:52 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

You must drink the urine of seven virgins and the blood of a newborn goat!


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    #784081 - 07/29/02 01:56 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

LOL...


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Re: Ok..So I'm ready to read up on chakras... [Re: World Spirit]
    #784093 - 07/29/02 02:03 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Enter...

Thanks for the reply. To answer your questions, I used to have a web site, but
no longer. Had to trim the budget and the website was one of the costs eliminated.
The links below are effective in explaining Reiki and the different types of Reiki
practiced.

I have been a Level II practitioner for over 10 years, and have found Reiki to be
a beneficial tool in my life. However, I have discovered you do not need to pursue
Reiki in order to become attuned to (or more aware of) the Universal Energy Field
in which all life manifests, and use your innate abilities to harness said energy
for healing purposes.

I practice the Traditional Usui Reiki and find the history of Mikao Usui to be
interesting, to say the least. Reiki does not require the practitioner to follow
a specific religion, faith or dogma in order to practice.

I was EXTREMELY skeptical at first, but Reiki worked for me in many ways, alleviating my skepticism over the years. However, Reiki does not replace my deep set faith, and my faith is an intregal part of practicing Reiki (power of prayer).

If you are interested in Reiki, I encourage you to seek out a Reiki Practitioner and
schedule a session. I have had countless first time Reiki recipients enter with much
doubt and leave totally flabbergasted with the results. It still amazes me to this day.


Dr. Mikao Usui

The International Center for Reiki Training

The Reiki Page

Reiki 4 All

Hope the info helps.

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    #784339 - 07/29/02 04:09 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Enter, I don't have much time to make a lengthy reply.. but you can check out the section of chakras on my webpage here
I haven't updated it in a while, but it covers the main aspects of the chakras based on my knowledge of them.


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    #784506 - 07/29/02 05:19 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

It is praiseworthy that you have created a website to expound Mysteries of Mind and Spirit. Pranams to you. I feel compelled to comment here because these Mysteries are central to my own development as a human being.

I recognize your first drawing as taken directly from Lama Govinda's 'Foundations of Tibetan Mysticism,' in which he COMPARES Kundalini Yoga to Tibetan Buddhist Yoga of the Inner Fire. I recognized the drawing because I was in written communication with Lama Govinda over my Doctoral dissertation which was based on his book. Now, I realize that the Buddhist system is very difficult to follow, but it completes a spiritual process that Hindu Yoga does not address - the Descent Towards Realization that follows the goal of Hindu Yoga, which is The Ascent towards Unification. The OM, which represents the finite self merging with the Infinite Atman, is followed by the 'coming down' or 'incarnation' of Infinity, from the Crown Center, through the Throat center [of Knowledge-Holding deities] into the Heart center in Buddhist Yoga. So, the beginning of the Great mantra of Tibetan Buddhism, is OM. OM MANI PADMA HUM - The Absolute is a Jewel in the Lotus of the Heart. Infinitude comes to indwell finitude - a process that completes the finite merging into the Infinite. One 'comes down' and lives after peak expeiences, unless one leaves the body in death. This looks phenomenologically like the event described in Christian Pentacost, when 'tongues' of fire sat upon the crowns of the disciples of Christ, descended to the Throat center whereby they spoke in 'tongues,' and they became ecstatic (as if drunk on new wine, as their Heart Centers were filled with Transpersonal, Transcendent Awareness). of course, if your source was not Lama Govinda's book (published in 1960), then the illustration was lifted directly from it.

The Buddhist Yoga NEVER discusses the Kundalini-Shakti, a creative energy. Rather, the feminine aspect of the duality is Prajna - Wisdom, which comes to embrace the masculine Compassion, as in the Yab-Yum statues depicting cosmic sexual union. The Bell and Dorje - Wisdom and Compassion - represent the dual nature of Reality, in Union, rather than Shakti and Shiva - dynamism and stasis. Each rung of the Tibetan dorje represents one of the 5 chakras in Tibetan Buddhism (the 2 Head centers, and the 2 lowest centers are combined. The Root Center represents the realm of 'smad; the Heart center represents the realm 'bar,' and the Throat and head centers represent 'stod.' They are Earth, Human and Heaven realms respectively.

I HIGHLY recommend that that anyone wanting to learn the most of chakra development above the physiological, astral and occult Shakti model, and into vessels for the differing facets of Wisdom, to study Lama Govinda's book. Not to discourage anyone, but I've studied this book since 1973, and I continue to learn. It is very, very rich and deep; imparting profound depths of understanding that can be applied to Christian faith as well.


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    #784641 - 07/29/02 06:21 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

Wow thank you Markos... praise from you I am honored.

The picture was indeed from Foundations of Tibetan Mysticism. I like your description of the buddhist system of energy flow through the chakras. What of the lower three chakras below the Heart Center? I would be interested to hear your take on the flow of spiritual energy through the complete system into ground and return.

Lama Govinda's book is indeed a most excellent one. I am going to have to take it out of the archives. /me blows off the dust.

I have found myself repeating the mantra OM NAMA SHIVA mentally for weeks now, yet I have no clue as to its meaning. Perhaps you could enlighten me?


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    #784856 - 07/29/02 07:55 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

It is my personal belief that chakras deal with the mind-body coordination that is inherant in the structure of the human brain. For instance, im sure everyone has heard the stories of amputees that can still feel thier limbs after they are gone. This is analogous to the "energy" that flows through the body. It is your mental picture of the body, but it is more than just a picture. The brain is structured to recieve impulses from various parts of the body and process them in certain ways. It is also no coincidence that several chakras occur at nerve-dense areas of the body, not to mention psychologically important areas such as the heart, genitals, and throat. Now that i have given my scientific explination, i must also say that i work on controlling my body's "energy" through meditation and other methods and i believe it to be very benificial.


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    #784875 - 07/29/02 08:04 PM (19 years, 1 month ago)

"Thanks" is more than sufficient. OM NAMA SHIVAYA means, 'To Shiva, I bow.' You might remember from the film 'Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom,' that the 'Thugees' (a 19th century cult of Kali worshippers who used to behead and dismember victims of robbery; and from whom we get the word 'thug') had stolen the Shiva-Lingam, along with all the children from a village. They showed a sacrifice scene in which the victim who was being sacrificed to Kali was chanting this as he was lowered into the volcanic pit to be burnt alive. Shiva, you probably know, is a 3rd part of the Hindu Trinity of Brahma-Vishnu-Shiva, the Creator-Preserver-Destroyer [of ignorance]. Shiva is represented by the immobile meditating Yogi.

The path of 'gTummo,' or Inner Fire is both a psychophysical experience like the Kundalini, but ALSO it is a metaphor for a spiritual path which begins in our instinctual life (Root Center); is brought to the beginning of psychic life (at the Navel Center) by a kind of bellows breath and a visualization of the seed syllable 'A' which fills the Navel Center, descends again to the Root Center, before being forced by visualization into the Sushumna. It then climbs back up through the centers, culminating at the Brain Center, and unites with the seed syllable 'HAM.' The sound 'AHAM' means 'ego' in Sanskrit. Cosmic identity is established in the White-Light experience of Unification (OM); and then the energy Descends Towards Realization as I described, creating the Diamond Body (Jewel in the Lotus of the Heart). Overflow energy continues down to the Root Center and even out through the feet into the Earth. 'The Bliss of Inner Fire' by Lama Thubten Yeshe offers how-to instructions in this practice. Lama Govinda once said that he never realized the fullness of what he was practicing until he took LSD. These practices can and perhaps should go together for Westerners who are not in Lamaist training. HOWEVER...the most important thing, assuming one does have a Unitive experience at the Crown - from 'downflowing' Transpersonal Energy (Holy Spirit), as in the Hopi 'chakra' tradition, or in Christianity (as epitomized by Pentacost)...and that is the indwelling of the Infinite in the finite. This is the Incarnation of Christ in Jesus - the Infinite God in the finite human - OM in HUM. The 'A' or 'AH' at the Root Center gets transposed to the Throat Center and becomes the vehical for Primordial Sound - the Word -Mantric Speech - and the plane of Knowledge-Holding [Gnosis] deities. After the Enlightenment experience, the 3 upper Centers have as their seed syllables: OM-AH-HUM, and become the vehical for the Mysteries of Body-Speech-Mind [Enlightened Mind resides in the Heart Center, not the Brain Center]. Amoghasiddhi, Buddha with right palm facing outward in the gesture of fearlessness - Compassion in Action, becomes the Way.
Whew! A little overboard, but a synopsis of a lot of difficult diagrams and reading. Please 'save' this if interested


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