teefizzle said:

i think you're trying too hard to be philosophical. You have to narrow it down, you can't just ask why? you have to have a specific question in mind.

-people can see atoms, or images of atoms put together by computers. Here is an image of the tip of the sharpest man made object, a tungsten needle, and each of the light-colored balls is an individual atom that moved during the imaging.

A fact is something that can be proven over and over despite trying to disprove it. The word fact though, does not seem appropriate in my opinion. If something is decided to be fact because it can be proven over and over, it doesn't mean there isn't something unknown to us that could disprove it. I think all facts would be better categorized as "solid theories" or something similar to that.

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elcharrosays said:

http://www.blazelabs.com/.%5Cpics%5Catomsibm.jpg
http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/whittle/astr124/matter/atom_lattice.html

there man some pictures of atoms.

try google next time.

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Walter1496211 said:

elcharrosays said:

elcharrosays said:

http://www.blazelabs.com/.%5Cpics%5Catomsibm.jpg
http://www.astro.virginia.edu/class/whittle/astr124/matter/atom_lattice.html

there man some pictures of atoms.

try google next time.

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Who took those pictures have you heard of photo shop?

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ah this is going nowhere. later.

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Walter1496211 said:

teefizzle said:

i think you're trying too hard to be philosophical. You have to narrow it down, you can't just ask why? you have to have a specific question in mind.

-people can see atoms, or images of atoms put together by computers. Here is an image of the tip of the sharpest man made object, a tungsten needle, and each of the light-colored balls is an individual atom that moved during the imaging.

A fact is something that can be proven over and over despite trying to disprove it. The word fact though, does not seem appropriate in my opinion. If something is decided to be fact because it can be proven over and over, it doesn't mean there isn't something unknown to us that could disprove it. I think all facts would be better categorized as "solid theories" or something similar to that.

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So the fact that over and over people can see atoms under a microscope proves a point more that people in this world who say over and over that God and Jesus exists?

Seeing something under a microscope made by someone who wanted to see something is more factual than and entire civilization of people who believe in God and Jesus to be said over and over again for longer than people knew an atom existed?

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teefizzle said:

i think you're trying too hard to be philosophical.

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elcharrosays said:

ah this is going nowhere. later.

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teefizzle said:

If there was an all-knowing being, do you think he'd be reading your post on the Shroomery? No hard feelings.

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Walter1496211 said:

elcharrosays said:

ah this is going nowhere. later.

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Thats exactly what I say when I try to prove my point about God.  Thank you.. You cant prove your point. You cant solidify your opinion you offered pictures from the internet (I could get pictures of Jesus from the internet) and you concede when you can convince me now you know how it feels to be a Christian.

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a picture of an atom has a bit more credibility, but I understand what you mean.  In my opinion, if you aren't too worried about knowing the truth, and you can accept that it's very very unlikely that you will ever know the ultimate answer in your lifetime, then just believe whatever makes you happy and be thankful that you're even alive and able to think of such a grand question!

Walter1496211 said:

elcharrosays said:

ah this is going nowhere. later.

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Thats exactly what I say when I try to prove my point about God.  Thank you.. You cant prove your point. You cant solidify your opinion you offered pictures from the internet (I could get pictures of Jesus from the internet) and you concede when you can convince me now you know how it feels to be a Christian.

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atoms are god's alter egos

teefizzle said:

Walter1496211 said:

elcharrosays said:

ah this is going nowhere. later.

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Thats exactly what I say when I try to prove my point about God.  Thank you.. You cant prove your point. You cant solidify your opinion you offered pictures from the internet (I could get pictures of Jesus from the internet) and you concede when you can convince me now you know how it feels to be a Christian.

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a picture of an atom has a bit more credibility, but I understand what you mean.  In my opinion, if you aren't too worried about knowing the truth, and you can accept that it's very very unlikely that you will ever know the ultimate answer in your lifetime, then just believe whatever makes you happy and be thankful that you're even alive and able to think of such a grand question!

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Nobodhi said:

Walter1496211 said:

elcharrosays said:

ah this is going nowhere. later.

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Thats exactly what I say when I try to prove my point about God.  Thank you.. You cant prove your point. You cant solidify your opinion you offered pictures from the internet (I could get pictures of Jesus from the internet) and you concede when you can convince me now you know how it feels to be a Christian.

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atoms are god's alter egos

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