Diploid said:

Your entire life has already taken place.

I doubt it. I own an iPod and they were just recently invented. I couldn't have owned one in a prior life.

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Diploid said:

Or maybe it doesn't work at all.

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figgusfiddus said:

Instead of some other arbitrary made-up fantasy fashion.

How presumptive of you, Diploid.

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Another theory is that a timing error in neuron firing causes the stimulus to be instantly experienced a second time. A similar theory suggests one eye may detect a stimulus before the other, and they are both comprehended in rapid succession.

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thanks

In meditation my mind used to get hung up on how independent the eyes are from each other. It's hard to make them continue to look straight down at the same angle for example.

sounds like reptilian ocular syndrome to me .  I think I've only ever experienced that sort of thing while on dxm, but I had no control over where each eye was focused.


I've never experienced deja vu that I know of, but it really speaks to the mechanistic nature of the physical brain that a little glitch in the gears could trigger a deep sense of having seen or experienced something twice.

It is an interesting idea, if it were proven I would be somewhat disappointed as I would be forced to abandon my more mystical interpretations of the phenomena.  I just gathered that info today and am already significantly inclined to accept the possibility of it being true.


I'd question the validity of attributing metaphysical properties to the occurrence if it didn't deal directly with our mind to such an extent.  After all, we don't really know why we yawn yet we don't assign much importance to it (except for maybe some people long ago who would cover their mouths so evil spirits wouldn't jump in).


Check this out (2nd paragraph especially)..

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Until recently, much of what was known to science about déjà vu came from a single extraordinary study conducted in the 1940s by Morton Leeds, an undergraduate at the College of the City of New York. Leeds had unusually frequent bouts of déjà vu and decided to keep a detailed diary of his experiences. He logged the time, circumstances, duration, and intensity of each spell. For example, at 12:25 p.m. on January 31, 1942, he wrote: “Awake, active. Extremely intense. Stood still for a moment in the shop. Then the feeling grew and grew. One of the most complete I have ever had. As the awareness grew, the feeling of being able to predict the next scene also came. It was so strong it almost nauseated me.” Over the course of 12 months, Leeds chronicled 144 episodes—one almost every two days.

When Leeds analyzed his records, he found that his déjà vu usually occurred in mundane settings. He also discovered that it was more likely to occur during periods of stress and fatigue and that it tended to occur late in the day and late in the week. Other surveys have since shown that a number of factors influence the frequency of déjà vu. The more educated, well traveled, wealthy, and liberal a person is, the more likely he or she is to experience déjà vu. As people grow older, the frequency of déjà vu trails off dramatically. The average twentysomething experiences it about three times a year; middle-aged people rarely experience it more than once a decade.

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http://discovermagazine.com/2005/sep/psychology-of-deja-vu/

Also, experience increases for those who can recall dreams well, though I read elsewhere that it increases with age instead of decreasing.

So I checked my records.  An average of 6 recorded per year.  What is most interesting is that damn near every single one indeed took place in a mundane setting while performing systematic operations (inducing stress and fatigue).  The numbers also lean towards the end of the week, but time of day definately did not hold true in comparison to his findings.

Well..I learned an awful lot regarding this topic today

mikebart101 said:

I'm saying you live the same lives every cycle of the universe, and its been going on forever; not that when you die you end up in the life you had just lived. Instead, in a trillion years or so when the universe collapses and restarts you will be sitting here reading this again.

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jonathanseagull said:

Diploid said:

Or maybe it doesn't work at all.

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figgusfiddus said:

Instead of some other arbitrary made-up fantasy fashion.

How presumptive of you, Diploid.

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Real good. You guys discuss it as if it's real, then I discuss it as if it's real, then you cock your chin and pat yourself on the back. Can you say "straw-man"?

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I'm really glad this thread has gone in such a productive direction. This is why I'm posting less and less around here

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I have some close acquaintances that live in a world of literalism and technicalities. It's often very hard to talk to them, because as I attempt to convey an idea to them, they foul up, stall and redirect the conversation by focusing on trivial technicalities and by resorting to sarcastic wit in a blatant refusal to focus on the broader idea.

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elbisivni said:

Infinite Regression/Reduplication

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If this perspective was turned from the straight-on-view, to a side-view, it would be a good description of a stutteruttering moment while amidst a salvia experience.... 


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So if you go back you'll see I never literally or technically agreed with mikebart, I did not see a reason to agree or disagree but to expound.

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figgusfiddus said:

"Hey guys, what if our armpits are actually a mystical vortex through which we can understand the Divine Intelligence?"

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You walk a fine line with that body locations....
Some people truly have pits from hell....   


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