Ok so first off let me get one thing very clear, I know this is about as half baked an idea as you can get. I do not claim this is true at all, it is a far fetched theory based on far fringe pseudo science and occultism. I am perfectly aware that this idea contradicts a number of physical laws and accepted scientific principles. That said I don't need anyone to point out how ridiculous this idea may seem to the scientific rationalist/materialist. My knowledge about some of these things is rather limited as well so even if you believe in the claims of ORMUS, Orgone and Magick well this may still seem kinda nutty and or stupid. In order to really give any kind of answer besides "that is just stupid" you are going to have to know quite a bit about the things in the title of the thread. I am not posting this to debate the validity of any of those things separately, (especially magick!) but rather an idea of how they may work together. So if you don't think one or more of those things credible, thats very nice but please don't bother posting that opinion it just side tracks away from the intention of the thread and wastes yours and my time. Especially since I'm not claiming for sure that ORMUS and Orgone are real I don't know enough about them to say. I just thought Id just throw this out there as an interesting daydream and wild whimsy.
Anyways so heres what I'm babbling about, ORMUS or mono atomic elements (primarily gold) are very interesting if what I have learned is even half true. Apparently they are able to do a number of amazing things like create a kind of anti gravity, help to balance the use of left and right hemispheres in the brain and generally improve physical and mental health as well as paranormal abilities. Laurence Gardener also claims this whole big hoobajoo about the ark of the covenant and manna etc. (see list of google videos down below)
From what Ive learned in reading and videos about ORMUS it is also a super conductor which can attach itself to the DNA of someone who ingests it. If this is true then perhaps this augmentation of the DNA can among other things amplify the force that acts on quantum particles and help the connection to the pure ocean of energy that is the basis of all matter (E=MC2). This would explain the increase in paranormal abilities and if it increased whatever means effect the quanta then it could possibly increase the manifestation rate of magick. Quantum physics has been used by some occultists most notably chaos magicians as a more scientific basis for magick. Perhaps the DNA is like the radio antenna broadcasting the will of the magician with the help of an ORMUS super conductor. Or if not a persons DNA then their brain itself which has its own unique magnetic field and neural pathways. I remember reading that possibly our DNA and definitely our brains can change within our lifetime depending on what experiences we have and belief structures etc. In the book the "holographic universe" which attempts to unite some quantum/holographic theory together with ancient mysticism we learn there is a scientific basis for the Hindu concept of Maya and world wide concept of magick. Perhaps the DNA or brain is like the holographic film from which reality is projected or at least perceived? (I could try and tie in the kabbalah to the DNA but that would make this needlessly complicated)
Orgone may or may not be connected to this in that it seems there is some non local force from which quantum particles are interacted with. Perhaps ingested ORMUS creates more Orgone in the body? ORMUS and Orgone seem to do many of the same things. Orgone may not be the force which acts on quantum particles but perhaps it is increased by ingesting ORMUS? According to new age flakes of which I am not one (I'm just a general flake) Orgone is very useful in manifesting desires which is their term for extremely basic magick.
The reason this may be is that an "Orgone accumulator" basically works by putting an organic material by a metal, the metal attracts the Orgone and and stores it in the organic material. So by having mono atomic elements in your DNA or brain it may actually create an Orgone accumulator. If this is so then It should be possible to actually measure the increase of Orgone energy on the person.
Of course I have no means with which to do such an experiment and its a pretty crazy Idea I know. I'm just wondering if someone who actually has a good understanding of all these concepts could give me their two cents.
For those of you who don't know much about this stuff and are interested a good start (but not end) would be these videos:
For ORMUS search in google video
Lost Secrets of the Sacred Ark - Quantum Physics Science.
MatrixVideo.avi
For holographic and Quantum theory search
The holographic universe - Beyond matter (just ignore the crap about Allah its a great video)
Edited by Mystic_Cannibal (08/08/07 10:53 PM)
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