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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: Swami]
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Ahhh...that explains all the hot air!  :wink:

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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: Veritas]
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I have always had a problem with the "immortalists" . I always considered it fear of death and the ones I know who believe this have never impressed me with their attitude or evidence.

Still, when it comes to health and illness, I think we have some influence on our health by our attitude.

I have lead a rough life and spent much of it thinking negatively. Yet I am fairly healthy and look no where near my age of 52. That's why I still score young babes. :grin:  So, my family is long lived and healthy beyond most. This may be the most important factor. I like to keep open to the possibilities. Thinking healthy and positive sure does wonders for energy levels and enjoyment of life.

Of course Swami my heavy psychedelic use may also be a factor in my youthful appearance, and my pact with the devil. :mushroom2: :satansmoking:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: Veritas]
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It is a fine art playing the straight man. Bud Abbot was under-rated.


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: Icelander]
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Yet I am fairly healthy and look no where near my age of 52
True.  :thumbup: From your photo, you only look 51.3 years.

So, my family is long lived and healthy beyond most.
Choosing our parents wisely prebirth is the most important factor.


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: Swami]
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I think 51.1 is really more the truth here. That photo added five pounds to my jowls you know. :frown:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: Icelander]
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Chicks dug Nixon, so you are in good company.


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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: Swami]
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Thanks for the support Pal. :hug:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: Icelander]
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I went to Maharishi International University and Deepak Chopra gave our graduation speech.


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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: eve69]
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quantum randomness abounds in this self definition business


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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: redgreenvines]
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So I happen to know that Chopra's roots are (1) as a Dr. and (2) based in Maharishi's promotion of Ayur Veda, which Deepak joined into with both trotters in the trough. Especially when he saw what Maharishi was doing in selling TM mantras and techniques. Deep became a born again Hindu New Age guru - all around shamanic healer/snake oil salesman.

The basic principle behind the positive/negative healing vs. harming thought concept is not the surfacy thoughts themselves which are hard if not impossible to control but in enlarging the base of awareness to superceed discursive thought because supposedly the base of thought is positive.

It has been posited that the base of thought is pure consciousness and that it is the self same level as the DNA, such that when one sits in samadhi without object, that is, samadhi where consciousness is the only object, that ones DNA is also reconnected with ones entire organism. Thus alllowing the more effortless flow of information between DNA and mRNA, such that the basic structures of the body can realign themselves. A self-Rolfing, if you will, from the inside out.

One could make all sorts of conjectures about this state, but it is a typical principle in the tantras - Buddhist and Hindu - that all the divinities live in the actual flesh on its subtle level.

It could be further extrapolated that in the state of self awareness those sentiences can very well be the basis of ones very thoughts, like the cells of awareness, like the cells of the body.

Various tantras teach how to uses those intelligences, to heal, and also to harm.

This in fact is what the four Vedas ultimatley are entirely about, that is, alligning the environment through subtle intelligences which exist within our awareness on subtle levels.

The Vedas being abstract hymnals without instructions, however, necessitate the understanding of the tantras for how to use them. Nowadays. Actually it used to be that lineages of Brahmins held the know-how for using the Vedas, and those lineages were of the Upanishads, Aranyaka and Brahmanas.

The main difference between the tantras and Vedas is the scale of the ritual and the scale of the effect one is seeking. Because the Veda and system of yajna performances seeks a truely macroscopic quantum effect based on group performance. I say quantum effect because there are no deities 'out there' somewhere. Rather, the deities are 'in here.'

Essentially Chopra is no different from any real and actual pundit. Only his marketing is different. And he has no Shaka or pundit lineage stemming from one of the rishis.

For this reason I find him trite and selling dummied down Hinduism for New Agers.


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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: eve69]
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For this reason I find him trite and selling dummied down Hinduism for New Agers.
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He's got hell of a bace then. Most new agers can only handle trite. Yet there is a very small percentage that will take his package and explore it from there, leaving him far behind, but a place where the journey began. That's why I don't write these guys off completely.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: Icelander]
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so while we might not want to take him "hook line and sinker",
the invitation to go fishing in sublime waters is definitely appealing.


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Re: Creating Ourselves on the Quantum Level [Re: redgreenvines]
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Sure.  I need no one to direct my adventure but me anymore. Yet I get many of my ideas from people like you. And although you have a lot going for you guru redgreenvines, I like to do my own exploring and take the lumps that go with that.  :thumbup: :heart:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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