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So if I understand you correctly you are saying that the speciation created by man such as dogs are in fact evidence for natural changes and not intelligent design. Interesting. What were you saying about irony......

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Incredibly weak argument. Apparently now you want to redefine ID on-the-fly (note: this sort of midstream redefining is indicative of a lack of counterpoint) to no longer mean the same as earlier and now want to include man as an intelligent agent counter to standard definition of Intelligent Design; i.e. designed by God.

That does not earn an irony alert, but an Intellectual Dishonesty (ID) alert.

Icelander said:

"they are doing it to convert people!" Dumb asses that say that make me laugh. I don't know anyone financially stable enough to just spend a couple thousand dollars to go build facilities houses and community buildings so they can convert people.


The mission of missionaries is to convert. Churches raise money for this if I'm not mistaken. I spent some time in the Fiji islands and guess what missionaries came and then guess what. Almost all Fijians are now christian. Interesting. I also belonged to several Baptist churches who sent out missionaries to convert.

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