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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3173318 - 09/24/04 12:43 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

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What is your interest in this stuff Mr. Crisper?



i was into tarot meditation, using the appropriate color and chanting in the corresponding note helps 'tune' the brain to be more receptive to whichever card i was working with. p.f.case wrote a lot on this topic, though the info is not easily available.
plus i wanted to develop my compositional skills - the search for the perfect note that will enable me to transcend to another dimension or something.


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3173551 - 09/24/04 02:34 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I guess the question is, is it possible for someone to conciously develop the remaining parts of their DNA, wahtever this entails? or it just an evolutionary process that will show itself in each new generation more strongly?


yes it is .. there is proof in the fact that animals have no doubt hence no language hence no disbelief of the direct communication!african elephants grow no tusks anymore because we hunted them .. you all should check that out .. i believe all we ahve to do is remove the doubt that we are connected to ourselves directly.. personally and collectively.. hence people having debates in words in their own head.. HELLO its your head ..


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3173847 - 09/24/04 05:32 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

cool post! hehe it kinda show why you can move i.e. an finger by thinking it :wink: :P


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: gettinjiggywithit] * 1
    #3173931 - 09/24/04 07:03 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

as a respectful person having once been trained as a biochemist and molecular biologist, I must say this story about the "russian scientists" is a fabulation, and promoting it is not worthy of any of us.

dna can be changed, and that is usually disasterous - forming cancers or mutations that are usually fatal; otherwise it is, thankfully, very resistant to change. Unlike a computer it does not store new things, unless mutation occurs - hence the long slow history of "evolution" in which the children of fittest survivors of mutations prevail over a long time.

vibrations do not change functional intracellular dna unless they are at UV frequencies and higher, though some expression of DNA can be influenced by vibrations, but that is very complex and unrelated to any of the issues discussed.

the rest of the interpretations of magical issues interrelated with this wrong information also do not help with understanding what is true or not about those magical things.

just to understand what dna is is a magic unto itself. obviously very few do, so it is arcane.

evolution also is not anything other that what has happenned in history.

one does not "evolve" except metaphorically perhaps. usually what people are trying to say is "advance" or "transcend", but abusing the terms "dna" and "evolve" in this way is sadly ignorant.


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3174557 - 09/24/04 10:53 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

hehe yeah it was pretty clear that those articles were not scientifically sound. Nevertheless there is something in their for us to use.

and i like the word fabulation. Personally i think I am fabulated, constantly.


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3174653 - 09/24/04 11:19 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

well maybe nothing is wasted - somethings hover real low at national-enquirer standards like this dna stuff, they are so fa-bull-ated.

lots to go wonder-full at without being way off base. without assuming science-like terminology-shortcuts to (un)truth.

If I work at merit in the document (quotation?) I see that you could summarize that efforts on improving one's character will be rewarded; but the whole document would need to be reworded to be truthful. leave out DNA, leave out EVOLUTION, leave out WORMHOLES, leave out russian Scientist(s).radiation...... well after you get rid of all the bull very little fa is left.

less than a single crop circle's worth.


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: mr crisper]
    #3174804 - 09/24/04 11:55 AM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Thatnks for answering Mr. crisper. There is a lot of information out there, your probably looking under the wrong names for where to find it, try chromotherapy, frequency healing, color light healing and energy healing.

I have to wonderful books called Color Energ-How Color Can transform your Lige by Cristina Bornstein and Anthony Gill. and another called Healing With Color by Lilian Verner-Bonds.

There are hundreds out there. Just the psychological and emotional effect color alone has on us is a very interesting topic. Marketing companies are even all over it to effect consumers. Same with aromotherapy (which is a form of frequency healing) The Japanese use it in their corporations and in stores to increase productivity and sales.

Once you start researching the whole of the subject, a whole world opens that you never new existed.

To the general reader I am just laughing. There are people here asking share more, there are people asking me to slow down the sharing, its too much to fast, and then those that say, its all unworthy.

There you have the wonderful diversity of the shroomery S&P forum we all enjoy and appreciate.

With all due respect and consideration, I post what I am inspired to post when I am inspired to post it. I move to the tune of my own drummer and let the dust settle where it may.


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3174856 - 09/24/04 12:16 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

well you sure are carrying the pollen from the flowers you have visited along your personal honey trail and so spreading it where ever it may fall.
nice. natural. sweet even.
just that the sources of your pollen are fake flowers.
you are buying books from charlatans - some are second and third generation charlatans, this honey trail is not research, it is just search. what you seek you will find.
everything does connect to everything but you are in a goofy tangle beyond sense and don't know it because you trust claims of other's science - even when they don't have it.
to research you need to go beyond that honeytrail.
is swami on holiday or something?


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3174871 - 09/24/04 12:24 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Red,

You were once trained in bio chemistry and in molecular biology and somehow that puts you on top of all the DNA research being done around the world? You must have magical powers! Cool!

regarding DNA here, the focus is on awakening dormant DNA. If science can alter with positive effects, like what is going on with gene therapy, why do have a problem with that. YES, risk comes with inovation, exploration, and experimentation.

Does that mean the world should stop inovating, exploring and experimenting? I doubt it will becuase you say we are all going to die from playing with DNA. i got news for you Red, unless we unlock the keys to physical rejuvination and immortality, we are all going to die anyway.

I'm a pioneer by nature and I hang on the coattails of those doing pioneering research and discovery. I don't wait around for the U.S. government to approve of what I can do with my potential.

Like a computer, DNA stores the bluprint for life darling. There is nothing NEW in it. We are just making new discoveries about what is already there. We havn't even even begun to scratch the surface.

DNA being influenced by vibrations is not complex, we are talking about simple resonance principles here. I can my 7 year old to tuning forks and show her how resonance works to make something non active active. What are you talking about?

You think it is unrelated to discussions here? Um, in the pursuit of self understanding and understanding how words, thoughts and emotions have an effect on our physiology via frequency it is dead on to discuss. The majority of disscusions here also revolve around our spiritual evolution. Many people exploring the potential of spirit in human form are VERY interested in DNA research and unlocking its mysteries that can tell us more about who we are and what we can do as spiritual beings in human form.

I've heard many people discuss pleiadian books and I KNOW they are all interested. I can guarantee you that Trendal, MAIA and Shroominsm are. DNA research may not be of interest to religious philosophical types, but it is to many spiritual types.

Any thing else you said is purely your opinion and I respect and appreciate that. If you think DNA research is unworthy of your time, then don't read it. Here is what you do, click on my user name and hit ignore this user. It's that simple.

The original article posted was a summary translation of scientific research related to spiritual quests. It wasn't the actual scientific document and it says that is was a summary under the Title by someone interested in this research. :rolleyes:


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3174883 - 09/24/04 12:33 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Red, I just caught your last post. All you posted were opinions. I don't trust what I read, I use this stuff for my own healing and DNA awakening. i've experienced the effects of this stuff for myself. Thats why I beleive in it. My daughter was given a blue light blanket by the hospital when she was born to heal up some jaundice.

Swami is going to kiss your ass for appointing him judge of truth or is it you kissing his? He isn't my judge, experience is my judge. Your funny, "Oh if only swami were here to make all I can't handle dealing with dissapear. Just use user ignore. I will dissapear like *poof* to you. Magic of technology!

I loved you analogy of my being like a bee spreading sweet pollen for more flowers to bloom into fruitation. That was beautiful!


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3174917 - 09/24/04 12:44 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

"and how can we ?ctivate'our unused DNA, so to speak?"

hahaha mushrooms hahah

or a very long meditation process


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: WhiteRussian]
    #3174945 - 09/24/04 12:50 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

I forgot to answer that for moon shoe myself. The article gave a lot of info related to language, frequency tone, sound. I gave you an awesome link to a group of people who created incrediable soundscapes for DNA activation. Until you have tried them, you just can't know what can change and its still just a small start.

Of course it will change for those who do not do a thing. Synergy takes care of that stuff. However, they will be the last ducks to experience it. Not that that matters either because there is no rush for anything.

You know as well as I do how some people are just impulsed to explore this area. Why is for the individual to figure out.


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3175087 - 09/24/04 01:20 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

color can heal some things especially jaundice
in this case we are talking about UV light effects
and getting the liver function of new borns to kick in.

This has nothing to do with modifying DNA.
I am only cringing on the bad science,
not on the truth of some light effects.

BTW i stay away from swami's ass, i was just surprised to be the only one irked by the volume of rank inaccuracy on this post, and how the oblique effect of one misunderstanding can influence so much error.
he is on holiday again and will probably do no good when he returns anyway.

jiggy - you are not the only person who erroneously thinks that we are evolving right now and that we affecting our "DNA" mentally and with mantras.

you are right to think we are having some effects but the use of scientific terms to wrongly explain non-scientific observations is gonna get you into a lotta trouble one day. SOmeone is going to expect you to be the expert.

then what?


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: redgreenvines]
    #3175334 - 09/24/04 02:08 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

If some one expects me to be an expert and puts blind trust in me then they will have created a lesson for themselves about placing trust in anything besides themselves.

People need to learn to develop discernement when exploring and take responcibility for themselves.

I did a post on this called stepping stones.

When I read, I take ideas and put my own spin on them for personal use. I'm not a literal reader, my mind is to abstract for that. It's difficult for me to get in the shoes of literal people.

I see what you are saying regarding your concern for literal types and people who put trust in others before what their heart tells them. I don't think they will become stronger individuals by being coddled and over protected.

I'm a curious soul, curious about so many things. I'm like a sponge and I read with a voracious appetite. I like to play and experiement with stuff. My reading is all about getting more ideas for play and experimentation and what new experiences to create for myself.

I'm sure there are others like me. I can't take responcibility for what other people do with information. People have to take accountability for themselves Red.

I did a post stating that I beleive experience is the best teacher, as facts change and many become proved other wise over time. I'm not here to prove anything to anyone. I'm here to share information and experiences and people can go prove stuff to themselves if they need it.

If someone feels something is unsafe or dangerous then they should avoid it. The world is pack loaded with risk takers too. They take us where no many has gone before. Ha cha cha
That energy excites me and I am sure it does many others.

I'm not the mother hen of the board. I'm a renegade explorer of consciousness if anything.

How was it it that penicillon was discovered? I beleive it was the result of what was that phrase you used, bad science. If the kitchens to hot for anyone, they should stay out of it, agreed.


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3175394 - 09/24/04 02:21 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Jiggy, i check out that link, maybe i didnt find the right part all i got were like 15 second 'pulse noises'that were all the same.

I know that personal evolution is possible, through various techniques. I am willing to entertain the possibility that this has to do with DNA and activating the unknown parts of it.

But yeah ill check out that link again as well as the one you PM'd mea while ago.

Never stop posting anything and everything of interest jiggy.

:thumbup:

Some of the things they were talking about were possible explanations for phenomenon i have percieved, its not perfect but at least its an effort to form some diverse stuff into a unified theory.

Not as impressive to me as some of the other similar attempts going on right now (theodynamiocs) but still a good start.

Peace out! pollenation is key.

"i dont wait for the US government ot apporve of my explorations of my own potential (paraphrased"

:grin: :thumbup:


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3175737 - 09/24/04 03:44 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)


This summary of DNA research realted to spirituality definitely does not compare to the pioneering work done in theodynamics. But like you said, it has bits and pieces to draw from. Someone PM'd this to me explaining how it connected the dots for him.  We can't make judgements for what is or isn't worthy or useful information to other people

here it is;

"I hope you know that your post on genetic universal conscience makes complete sence to me. You have explain much I needed to know in that post, in fact, I might be alot further along my goal of healing the sick because of it.

Now I know that words effect things beyond our conscience. My God, you have to know that telepathy is real and I KNOW for a fact it is. This explains everything in scientific detail. There is much left out, but I get the picture."

Thankyou.


The frequency healing CDs from www.harmonyera.com are just a hum. Each CD changes pitch throughtout play. They are boring to listen to so I play them while I sleep. Cept for the DNA activation one. It hits tones that wake me up and have me feeling like you do when someone runs their nails down a chalk board. Its a screamer.

The chakra ones kick butt. It took me 5 plays to get through chakra 3. I had such a bad energy block it was busting through, I actually doubled over the first play. Now I can handle it and it made a huge difference. I'm not a door mat anymore.

There is one in the mental emotional series called emotional release. I was afraid to play it thinking i would turn into a teary eyed basket case. To my suprise, I felt incredible. I discovered that I easily express negative feelings, it's the good ones I stuff and repress. I've learned so much about myself working with these and what it feels like to feel balanced and clear so i know more quickly when I am running off balance.

The DNA activation ones at visionary music and multimedia are musical sound scapes that are cool to listen to. Click on the boom box on the top left of the page for a sample. You'll feel that "something". These CD's are great to meditate too, or to go exploring with. They work hand in hand with the One Star book as they primarily help with light integration. They are not all la la la. As you move up in the levels, dark energy surfaces for light integration. They are very powerful.

They advise that you play each level at least 7 time before moving up. Well, I pushed it of course and quickly played level two and my legs were so damn heavy and achey feeling the next day. Duh, our legs are symbolic of what moves us forward. I was rushing forward movement and I payed for it. Too funny.

Really level one is the best, lucid dream time starts to go off and you feel like you are filled with joy goo. Working with liquid light comes into play, you start to feel it in your body, it's like being interlined with silk. I love it! I still can't get through level 4 with ease. If anyone gets them, I would reccomend getting the companion guide. It's very comprehensive and well worth it.

Figure what some of you spend on drugs to trip out on. These CDs will keep the trips coming and coming. My brother is a light junkie too and pushed playing level 1. He had it on repeat all day. He calls me later and says, "I think I am slipping away".LOL I told him to turn it off already.

They have one specifically for shamanic journeying as well, and a healing one called Odeyssee ( pleadian light chamber work) and Shamaballah the journey home- it's an intense rush- hit the sample for that one.


And Red, UV light is what me and cripser are talking about. I have a UV lamp, the kind clinical psycholigist prescribe for depression. They sell colored film to use over them. You can find this stuff on the net. I've used it for chakra work and healing, mostly for rejuvination.

BTW, We are talking frequency healing in general here and we have 3 sources- light sound and magnetics. Some research doctors are getting results using magnetics for cell rejuvination. Lots of fascinating research out there.  Electromagnetic frequencies are where genetic mutations like cancer cells can come into play. I don't play around with electro magnetic stuff.

Thanks for the support and good vibes moon shoe.  :heart:


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3175861 - 09/24/04 04:15 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

http://www.visionarymusic.com/dna.html

Here it is again if anyone reading wants to check out the boom box sample. Don't listen to it, FEEL it. Sound is for the emotional body and light is for the mental body.


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: gettinjiggywithit] * 1
    #3175974 - 09/24/04 04:46 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

Please relax;

and do get facts straight

pennicillin was not discovered by bad science at at all, by contamination yes, but not by unclear thinking, nor by compounding erroneous conceptions.

pennicillin is not an excuse to get dumb, or to invite really dumb things into a refined arena. (I think S&P is a refined place - subject to a strong party influence but not dumb at least not willingly dumb)

and why stuff that misinformation into a comment about not being the mother hen? did an egg hatch and people started pointing fingers?

every one this is not the egg mother! (see I am on your side)

But you mention that you are not involved in electo magnetic frequencies, but you are definitely involved in them if you use UV light, why make such a distinction such as that?

well it could be because you really do not know how to use the scientific language that you have chosen to employ. - the whole spectrum is called electromagnetic including light, UV, radio, gamma - & each has a place in the big rainbow of energy fluctuation.

And

Mutations and cancers do frequently happen with UV too, that is why people wear sunblock. Oddly we need some UV to make vitamine D, so getting mutations is kinda normal, and so is getting cancer.

That is also why we are all excited about the Ozone layer and what is damaging it and we are making international aggreements etc. Ozone is a natural atmospheric filter of UV light which we need but "in moderation".

Oddly some people heal from cancers and others do not do so well. Many people are self repairing without any interventions.

This is an area to get excited about, but you must try to collect related facts in an orderly fashion, sometimes I think flypaper can do better than people, we need to use discretion on the so called facts that we are collecting and repeating, & at least check on the meaning of some of the words before we endorse them by repetition.

some may read no more than your own posting.


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: gettinjiggywithit]
    #3176210 - 09/24/04 05:53 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

If this is true, which I feel it isn't, it is a huge difference in what I know about our DNA and genetics, and it appears to be largely unnoticed by modern science and news. Now, I'm not saying it's impossible for this stuff to be true, but my natural BS filter starts itching when I read some of the stuff that is passed off as scientific news.

I'm not implying that frequencies and vibrations can't have a huge impact on our experiences (afterall, we are vibrations ourselves...) but all the information on DNA sounds too fictitious. Almost like the "we only use 10% of our brain" myth, or other such feel-good-ologies passed off as scientific facts. Some things remain unproven by science that I know are just as existant as this "consensus reality", an obvious example being telekinesis. However, I stop there. I do not buy into a lot of the seemingly uneducated, often new age approaches to explaining this phenomenon. Sure they could be true, but aaannnything could be, and thus I go by my experience alone.

But back on topic here, I think that articles mentions many things which are true and are beginning to reveal themselves to our collective being. Specifically, we are all going to realize the illusion of seperation to the fullest, and in turn not unite as one, but rather realize we've always been one being. We are the 'God' that created itself, fragmented into infinite perceptions, deluded by illusionary veils of individuality. Realizing this or not is not important, as we still remain parts of the single solitary one-being, and even our ignorance has a role in it's design. But, for the curious ones, we must completely realize our true nature, first by realizing our own fabrication of ego and self, and then by looking beyond it and realizing what a dream this reality is within our one self.

How does DNA fit into this infinite equation? It acts as the pre-emptive ripple to individualized perception points, each accelerating through the dimension of time, interacting amongst themselves, filters of the void, and yet - also the void.


Oh, it's also time we do away with spoken language. Soundwaves are not the only possibility :smile:


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Re: DNA Language Discoveries.- VERY interesting! [Re: deff]
    #3176633 - 09/24/04 07:56 PM (19 years, 4 months ago)

deff that was beautiful .. i agree wholeheartedly.. but here is the amazing thing.. lets do away with spoken language.. but look at us typing away to associate our ideas.. its quite a paradoxical contradiction we have put ourselves. trying to proove that we are all infinite but not yet having the power to proove it . how do we unite with us as IT/ are we supposed to as a whole? because if we are supposed to then people like us (those that are seeing the future/creating the now)must sacrafice their lives to showing it in a revolutionary way. / or is everything exactly how it is supposed to be right here and now and we collectively know just as much as were supposed to.. like if we were all aware that we were it . then game over ... well this is the kind of shit that racks my brain so any imput would be much appreciated


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