Lightningfractal said:

And since no mod is god-like to know the real intentions of a poster who posts those words associated with racism, we should restrain from using the words so as to avoid any misunderstandings.

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A word in itself conveys nothing. The intention and the motivation of its usage is what determines whether or not it is a racist statement.

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nig·ger /ˈnɪgər/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[nig-er] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
—Usage note The term nigger is now probably the most offensive word in English. Its degree of offensiveness has increased markedly in recent years, although it has been used in a derogatory manner since at least the Revolutionary War. Definitions 1a, 1b, and 2 represent meanings that are deeply disparaging and are used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause great offense. Definition 1a, however, is sometimes used among African-Americans in a neutral or familiar way. Definition 3 is not normally considered disparaging—as in “The Irish are the niggers of Europe” from Roddy Doyle's The Commitments—but the other uses are considered contemptuous and hostile.
–noun 1. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a. a black person.
b. a member of any dark-skinned people.

2. Slang: Extremely Disparaging and Offensive. a person of any race or origin regarded as contemptible, inferior, ignorant, etc.
3. a victim of prejudice similar to that suffered by blacks; a person who is economically, politically, or socially disenfranchised.

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This forum contains content that many will find extremely offensive. Such material includes grotesque imagery, vocal racism, and generally disrespectful behavior. While some of our guidelines are relaxed, we do reserve the right to enforce them at any time. All views are those of their author and are in no way endorsed by the Shroomery.

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We attract new users mainly through the cultivation forums. The existance of OTD does not work agansit our abilty to attract new users. If anyone enters the forum after reading that and gets offended then they have inflicted it upon themselves. It is not as though they were reading about a horse poo tek and all of a sudden someone called them a nigger, now is it?

Believe it or not, not everyone intentionally enters a forum containing offensive material, pisses everyone off, and then gets upset by their reaction.

fireworks_god said:

Because of this:

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This forum contains content that many will find extremely offensive. Such material includes grotesque imagery, vocal racism, and generally disrespectful behavior. While some of our guidelines are relaxed, we do reserve the right to enforce them at any time. All views are those of their author and are in no way endorsed by the Shroomery.

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We attract new users mainly through the cultivation forums. The existance of OTD does not work agansit our abilty to attract new users. If anyone enters the forum after reading that and gets offended then they have inflicted it upon themselves. It is not as though they were reading about a horse poo tek and all of a sudden someone called them a nigger, now is it?

Believe it or not, not everyone intentionally enters a forum containing offensive material, pisses everyone off, and then gets upset by their reaction.

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Lightningfractal said:

I agree with the freedom of speech concept, but racist hatespeech should be the one exception. It just isn't nescessary...

This is afterall a private site and we are guests, and so racist speech should be disallowed just like it would be if you were visiting someone else's house and sitting in their living room.

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Except this person has said it's OK to say this stuff in their house -- but just in the bathroom.

"Oh I agree, except, not right now.."  you can't agree with freedom of speech and try to limit it.  You can't have your cake* and eat it to
(I'm not sure of the rules for flaming in here so I'll just leave the phrase as it stands and not modify it for LF-specificness )

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Posting racism in public forums however will offend black posters. I want black posters to stay here as well as white ones.

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Black people don't usually eat magic mushrooms. Any who do, and who come here to post, I propose should be allowed to post in peace.

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Behold the foreward-thinking LF..  look at his progressiveness, how he refuses to stereotype!

[QUOTE]So if you went to someone's house and saw a sign out front that says "This residence contains dogshit on the floor and dead rats in the toilet", you'd go right on in because there's a sign? [/QUOTE]

I know that if I did, I certainly wouldn't complain about he dogshit on the floor and dead rats in the toilet.  Er, duuh


This is just a ridiculous bid by LF for some attention, since apparently he's banned in the pub and 99% of OTD has him on ignore or simply won't read what he posts.  The end.

Lightningfractal said:

So if you went to someone's house and saw a sign out front that says "This residence contains dogshit on the floor and dead rats in the toilet", you'd go right on in because there's a sign?

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fireworks_god said:

Lightningfractal said:

So if you went to someone's house and saw a sign out front that says "This residence contains dogshit on the floor and dead rats in the toilet", you'd go right on in because there's a sign?

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Yeah, exactly. If you don't care for dog-shit and dead rats in the toilet then don't go in. That's exactly my point.

Now, we don't have a disclaimer like that for the entire website, just one specific forum. Don't care for it, don't go in.

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i think you just proved his point.

when you are warned about what you are going to see, then you still enter, and you see it, you have no right to get offended and all pissy.

now if you werent warned and there was a anus with shit being pushed out of it.. then you could be all pissy like you always were.. just learn to read and you wont be pissed off.

Lightningfractal said:

My point is:

If you know there is dogshit on the floor, and dead rats in the toilet...

Why do you only put a sign out front, when you can just clean up the mess??

I think that's just laziness.

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Lightningfractal said:

Lightningfractal said:

My point is:

If you know there is dogshit on the floor, and dead rats in the toilet...

Why do you only put a sign out front, when you can just clean up the mess??

I think that's just laziness.

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demius said:

can we ban all lot-speak from OTD, or even all forums?

some examples are heady, headie, headies, headiez, headz, brah, brahs, brahz, fire, flame, flame-brah, custy, custies, custys, custiez,

thanks

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Brainiac said:

Heres a idea, how about not going into OTD. Then you can believe there's no racism in the world.

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Lightningfractal said:

"Why clean up the mess when we can put a sign out front?" might work in the short term, but eventually this will go full circle, and the entire Shroomery will become polluted, forcing the issue.

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