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Best way to experience DMT?
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I've been reading a lot about N,N DMT and I've decided I really want to try it, however I don't know the best way to produce/aquire it. I've read about mimosa hostillis bark, but that is like $100 a pound to produce the DMT and I'm in college and don't have that kind of money. What is a cheaper way that is as effective? Preferably without a lengthy extraction tek, but if thats the way I've got to do it so be it.

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: Dihnekis]
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There is no other effective way to get N,N-DMT. Mimosa is readily available from many online sources and extractions are simple, and not all that time consuming either. Your making it seem harder than it really is. 1 pound would produce a lot of DMT if extracted effectively, if you wanna spend less money, the answer is simple, buy less root bark. You have to perform some sort of extraction, no matter what. If you really want to experience the DMT-verse, you will do what you have to do to get there.


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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: badreligion2good]
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Ok, thanks for the help. About how many doses of DMT does a pound of mimosa make? Would 2 ounces or so get me enough for a dose?

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: badreligion2good]
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There is ayahuasca and there is smoked dmt.
You can choose one or both.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: yageman]
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I've been reading about ayahuasca for a while, and I guess I'd like to try that. I don't think I'm ready yet though, I've only had 4 mushroom trips and I still need to try mescaline, LSD, and salvia.

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: Dihnekis]
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Well, smoked dmt is far beyond any of the others and yet it only lasts for about 12-15 min.

Buy some salvia 10-20x. That will atleast let you know what you are getting into when it comes to these smoked hallucinogens.
Salvia is ENTIRELY different than dmt, but it gives you a bit of perspective as to how intense one or two large hits can be.

Id suggest some salvia before using dmt. Really though it doesnt matter that much. Just do it and dont smoke too much your first time. That could really ruin it for you, or not....lol


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: yageman]
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Any idea how many dmt trips a pound of mimosa bark would provide?

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: yageman]
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salvia feels like shit. n,n-dmt is pure pleasure. usually, anyways.

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: qwertymkonji]
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qwertymkonji said:
salvia feels like shit. n,n-dmt is pure pleasure. usually, anyways.


Thats one of the dumbest quotes I have ever heard by anyone.

One feels like "shit", and the other is just pure bliss. Gotta love that point of view.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: yageman]
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:lol: :thumbup:


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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: yageman]
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yageman said:
qwertymkonji said:
salvia feels like shit. n,n-dmt is pure pleasure. usually, anyways.


  Thats one of the dumbest quotes I have ever heard by anyone.

One feels like "shit", and the other is just pure bliss.  Gotta love that point of view.


:rofl:


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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: Moomba]
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If you are good at following directions and researching, expect a min of .67 and a max of 1.1% DMT in MHRB.
1.1% of 1kg is 11grams which is 200+ doses smoked.

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: Jaeger]
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oh damn, guess that isnt a bad price for 200+ doses.

Does the ayahuasa experience last a lot longer though?

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: Dihnekis]
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Erowid.org :wink:

(I say that partially due to the dietary restrictions necessary for aya.  Plus it is easier :-p)

Edited by Jaeger (09/22/06 09:57 PM)

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: Jaeger]
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A small dose of ayahuasca lasts for about 6-8 hours with 3 hours of obvious after effects that could be considered to be part of the trip. I know I consider that part of the trip.

A large dose effects different people in different ways but its always extreemely intense. On sucha large dose it lasts about 18 hour for me, followed by a lifetime worth of after effects.

There are so many different ways to make your brew, but a large dose of maois and a sufficiant or average dose of dmt with it lasts a lifetime(15 hours at least).....and then some...

Ayahuasca is definately a slippery slope, and Im glad that it is.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

Edited by yageman (09/22/06 10:39 PM)

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: Jaeger]
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unless you are lucky enough to know someone who sells DMT, extracting is the only way (unless you're an experienced chemist who can synthesize it). if you buy it, its most likely bulk-extracted from mimosa and lower quality than you could make yourself.

a pound can yeild anywhere from 2 grams to 5 grams provided you do a good job. your first time you may screw up a bit and end up with less than that... but if you use a pound you will still get a decent amount. 1 gram = 20 average doses. from what I have heard, "street" prices for DMT are between $200 and $500 a gram so even if you only get 1 gram out of that pound its still better than if you bought it.

ayahuasca lasts way longer than smoked DMT. smoked DMT lasts about 15 minutes with the peak (the DMT flash when you are completely in another world) being the first 5 minutes. aya lasts like 5 hours. aya also has physical side effects, you will puke.

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: JeffersonDarcy]
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You wont always puke on ayahuasca, and it doesnt always last for only 5 hours.

It can last for up to two days depending on your prefered dose and how you make it. It depends on the maoi to dmt ratio.

Its not just a simple 6 hour deal as is said in so many places.

Those who want to try it can figure that out on their own.


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[quote]Me_Roy said:
You moron. Material is material is material.  No 'thing' fixes any situation.  If anything were so simple we would be living in a much better world.[/quote] <-----the dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.
Thanks shroomery.

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: yageman]
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And really, expect atleast 5 grams from a kilo. AFOAF got 5 from 500g.

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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: Jaeger]
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Alkaloid content for jurema(Mimosa hostillis) .57.
Swim suggest you buy 100g Mimosa and do tek 100.easy as baking a cake.

If you like buy in bulk.

Nothing will ever prepare you for a DMT breakthrough,but SWIM also recommends trying sally first.(Completely different) similar speed,world/dimension change.


Have fun,Be safe

Peace and love,Kija.


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Re: Best way to experience DMT? [Re: kija]
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Something about salvia makes me feel scared, that I've left my normal place, and that something is terribly wrong and i can never go back... but in a... good way... but you can get over some of this feeling.

The DMT though makes me feel like I've left the false place (my body) and re-entered back into my original state... it is w/o a doubt one of the most phenomenal and euphoric consciousness shifts Ive experienced...

I would buy as much as you can afford, extract it, then smoke out as many of your friends as you can with it... i found this to be a very positive experience. It's great to engage in conversation with ppl you know and care about, about an experience like DMT... I found groups of 3-4 work well... everyone smokes this discusses... then repeat w/ different ppl next weekend. :grin:

WATCH OUT FOR THOSE DAMN GNOMES DONT LET THEM GET BEHIND YOU
-Terence M.


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Teonanacatl, open up my eyes
This sacrament, this prayer, beyond the world of lies
Guide me clearly through that which I dont understand
Give me strength to find the path
Help me fight any demons as you flow through me wholely
This is my prayer, that you protect me from evil, and bring me closer to peace
And open up my eyes, so i can see things as you do
Amen

Edited by SDP (09/23/06 01:51 PM)

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