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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: Dogomush]
    #1618379 - 06/08/03 01:05 PM (20 years, 7 months ago)

Are the Amozonians an advanced group of people?

Im just bringing this back up incase anyone has more info. KOos, you still havent responded. I had an MRI and will be seeing a neurologist shortly so ill report back if they find anything wrong with my brain.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: trypyamine]
    #10611110 - 07/02/09 05:30 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Theyre amazonians, not exactly the most amazing group of people.  I think they still live in grass huts and havent heard of electricity.  Maybe theres a reason?  Ayahuasca tuesdays might have something to do with it.  I mean they dont really have complicated lives to fuck up.  Its not like theyre gunna be driving 60 down the highway with you.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: mattritt]
    #10611149 - 07/02/09 05:39 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Theyre amazonians, not exactly the most amazing group of people.  I think they still live in grass huts and havent heard of electricity.  Maybe theres a reason?  Ayahuasca tuesdays might have something to do with it.  I mean they dont really have complicated lives to fuck up.



*points at complications in the world caused by the hand of current, government-drug induced society*

Maybe there was indeed a reason for Ayahuasca Tuesdays huh? :smile:

But, that's just my way of looking at it.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: Sellith]
    #10611211 - 07/02/09 05:51 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

WoW, I ant believe how biased most of you guys are.

All you guys do is paraphrase the same information over and over in your own ways.

Its very naive to believe that endogenous substances cant damage our BRAINS with and OD.



When the OP says BRAIN hes meaning atbleast two things.

1. His actual, physical brain.
2. His, mind i.e psyche.

It would be hard to measure the damage done by the first.
But it's absurd to believe that a DMT overdose cannot negatively affect the second.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #10611223 - 07/02/09 05:52 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

When I was alot younger I over did it alot.

I had HPPD like visuals for a year or so.

After a while it calmed down.

I just chilled out the intensity of the psychs I used and the chronemics.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #10611428 - 07/02/09 06:26 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

I just like that you bumped a six year old thread with response to the Amazonians.  Living in the woods is fun.  I like to think that when the nukes start flying and the MIB start pushing buttons, I can find safe refuge in the vast forest. 

I hate being a pawn in society.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: Dogomush]
    #10611439 - 07/02/09 06:28 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

retarded question , your brain pumps alot higher doses
thats why you cant remmeber your trip
dmt taken in high doses is useless because you cannot remember ur trip at all
3 hits is all it takes.
btw dmt is about 37x safer than weed.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: Dogomush]
    #10611456 - 07/02/09 06:31 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

DMT is cool because you'll pass out LONG before you smoke enough to do any uhh, physical, damage.

Mentally things could be a little different for some folk though :smile:


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: HuMe35]
    #10611475 - 07/02/09 06:36 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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I hate being a pawn in society.



Right on, try to achieve personal goals... And be a parasite in the mean time.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: Dogomush]
    #10611833 - 07/02/09 08:00 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

Well, just look at the lifespan of Raja Ram vs. Alexander Shulgin. Raja Ram, the pioneer of Psychedelic Trance most likely ingested massive amounts of lsd, fungi, dmt and other psychoactive substances. Alexander Shulgin by contrary tried hundreds of psychoactive substances in small controlled doses. Guess who died at 100 and who died at 55....

Just like how Michael Jackson died....

I got so sick from doing excess amounts of oxycontin I puked for 2 days and couldn't hold any food down. Or what about smoking cigs and weed, getting bronchitis and continuing to smoke weed and puking each time I smoked for 4 months (guess you dont' need to eat much to live).

BS, taking risks with your body reduces your live expectancy. That is why life insurance is more if you involve yourself in high risk activities, like rock climbing.

I bet taking a huge psychedelic trip every 2 months is equally as dangerous as going sky diving, if not more. But who gives a shit, you have to live your life. But don't kind yourself, you are going to die sooner; enjoy every minute of it.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: iluvfungi]
    #10612177 - 07/02/09 09:20 PM (14 years, 6 months ago)

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Well, just look at the lifespan of Raja Ram vs. Alexander Shulgin. Raja Ram, the pioneer of Psychedelic Trance most likely ingested massive amounts of lsd, fungi, dmt and other psychoactive substances. Alexander Shulgin by contrary tried hundreds of psychoactive substances in small controlled doses. Guess who died at 100 and who died at 55....

Just like how Michael Jackson died....





What the fuck are you talking about? Raja Ram and Alexander Shulgin are both still alive and well. :rolleyes:


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: Seuss]
    #13723714 - 01/03/11 07:42 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

Ok first you are wrong. DMT is found in the pineal gland in the brain. If you had looked farther than what you did you would find that every child born has a DMT Hallucination, and every dream after that untill its death is another DMT hallucination, and finally upon death your brain purges all that it has left in it.

One a near death experience can be compared to a dmt trip
Two A somke induced DMT trip can be considered a CONSCIOUS DREAM LIKE STATE.
Three If the fact that the most powerfull hallucinogenic chemical known to man is also one of the most illegal substance's known and you use a large amount every single day you draw a breath. Does not make you wonder.
Four The fact that millions of people with no similarities what so ever, (other than being human) report the same things in the DREAM STATES.
Five And if you look deep enough you will find that CHRISTIAN ZEALOTS made it illegal for DMT and many other chemicals to be humanly consumed all the way back in 1875.

Anyone wonder as to why we cant have this but ancient religous figures and some today still use it to seek Spiritual enlightment.

I have tried DMT in smokeing form in many ways and differnet dose, and honestly untill you have ingested it while conscious than i dont want to hear anything you have to say. You have formulated an opinion on what you were told about a DRUG, well if it is a drug then lock up the newborns, people about to die, and.... EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD AND MOST LIVING THINGS BEACAUSE WE HAVE TO USE IT TO LIVE.

Look up what happens if you don't never allow the brain to enter dream sleep.

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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: CockyMandrill]
    #13723745 - 01/03/11 08:06 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

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DMT mixed with syrian rue breaks the laws of physics as to what your brain is capable of.  It can only be explained using quantum physics, which is completely different.  In quantum physics one thing can exist in 2 places at the same exact time. DMT is powerful,  amazingly. 





I hate to amuse an old thread and, what is now, an essentially non-existent poster;but, this is the most ass-backward and misinformed thing I have ever read.

There is nothing about how Syrian rue works , as an MAOI, in combination with DMT that is mysterious . If anyone cares to look it up, go ahead. It is not difficult to find the real reason one would wanna combine a MAOI with DMT.

Granted, I have read Syrian Rue has entheogenic properties.

Edit: Grammar fix.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: runMD]
    #13724209 - 01/03/11 10:30 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

Pretty much everything anyone said is irrelevant, because as of this moment, their has not been enough clinical research for us to know whats up.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: OverdoseLiving]
    #13724369 - 01/03/11 11:18 AM (13 years, 27 days ago)

The only point I was trying to make was in dispute of the poster's comment, which that I quoted.

As others mentioned, DMT is not orally active unless it's combined with an MAOI because it is rapidly degraded by the body. Adding a Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitor stops these natural break down mechanisms in your body and allows for the DMT to reach higher levels in circulation.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: runMD]
    #13724779 - 01/03/11 01:03 PM (13 years, 27 days ago)

I ran a clinic in my kitchen then. That satisfied me, I've been playing with different trips and shit for about a year  and 3 months now all on  DMT some with cannabis, coke, alcohol intoxication all with observers and controlled as possible of a setting. I don't need some GOVERNMENT scientist like the one that said weed can kill you in the 70's to tell me shit about DMT.
Who you think runs the clinic man?


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: TooTall]
    #13725148 - 01/03/11 02:35 PM (13 years, 27 days ago)

Not all scientizts are evil.


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: TooTall] * 1
    #13725796 - 01/03/11 04:57 PM (13 years, 27 days ago)

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Ok first you are wrong. DMT is found in the pineal gland in the brain. If you had looked farther than what you did you would find that every child born has a DMT Hallucination, and every dream after that untill its death is another DMT hallucination, and finally upon death your brain purges all that it has left in it.





This is complete speculation with no proof, a theory that has been proven false. :facepalm:


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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: mattritt]
    #13725877 - 01/03/11 05:13 PM (13 years, 27 days ago)

Not completely without merit. There are also a couple other studies that use less sophisticated methods of tested. I am not leaning either cause I choose not to involve myself here...

Finnish Study:


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Bufotenine and N,N-dimethyltryptamine (DMT) are hallucinogenic dimethylated indolethylamines (DMIAs) formed from serotonin and tryptamine by the enzyme indolethylamine N-methyltransferase (INMT) ubiquitously present in non-neural tissues. In mammals, endogenous bufotenine and DMT have been identified only in human urine. The DMIAs bind effectively to 5HT receptors and their administration causes a variety of autonomic effects, which may reflect their actual physiological function. Endogenous levels of bufotenine and DMT in blood and a number of animal and human tissues were determined using highly sensitive and specific quantitative mass spectrometric techniques. A new finding was the detection of large amounts of bufotenine in stools, which may be an indication of its role in intestinal function. It is suggested that fecal and urinary bufotenine originate from epithelial cells of the intestine and the kidney, respectively, although the possibility of their synthesis by intestinal bacteria cannot be excluded. Only small amounts of the DMIAs were found in somatic or neural tissues and none in blood. This can be explained by rapid catabolism of the DMIAs by mitochondrial monoamino-oxidase or by the fact that the dimethylated products of serotonin and tryptamine are not formed in significant amounts in most mammalian tissues despite the widespread presence of INMT in tissues.




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Re: Can you get brain damage from a DMT overdose? [Re: runMD]
    #13726451 - 01/03/11 06:58 PM (13 years, 27 days ago)

If you take too much you will black out and have a mild tripping feeling that will last up to a couple days. The amount of DMT you will need to smoke to get permanent neurological damage would do so by causing chemically induced endema of the lungs. Thankfully you would black out before being able to smoke that much in one sitting!


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