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OfflineBlueTalon
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Ayahuasca
    #2034729 - 10/23/03 02:25 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Hi I was wondering...  :confused:

I was looking on Bounching Bear Botanicals and seen Banisteriopsis Caapi (Caapi Vine, Ayahuasca) 4oz. SHREDDED Brazillian Vine / $20.00

I asked one of my friends about this and he told me you boil the vine in water on low heat for an hour then injest syrian rue seeds before you drink the brew.  Is this right what he's saying? 

How much vine is considered a dose? 1oz? And should you take about a bottle cap full of syrian rue?

Thanks for making things clearer.  :cool:


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Re: Ayahuasca [Re: BlueTalon]
    #2034816 - 10/23/03 02:51 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

The vine and the seeds contain the same thing. You need an MAOI (vine/rue) and DMT (mimosa hostilis, psychotria viridis)


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Re: Ayahuasca [Re: InjectTruth]
    #2034985 - 10/23/03 03:43 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Also, I have heard from one source "if it bubbles your in trouble" refering to having a lot of bubbles while boiling it. So I attempted to boil some lu gen on low "aka simmer". I am not sure how successful it was, but then I went back to the same place, and I was told to let it be at a rolling boil, which to me means like bubbles to shit.

Can anyone clear up which is which, also, if the same thing applies to the rue. There were two factors at work as to why my experiement didn't work, and that is because I didn't realize I had a fraction of what I needed for an active dmt dose, but also the possibility that it indeed needs to boil in the stereotypical fashion... anyone? LOL


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Re: Ayahuasca [Re: caolite]
    #2035040 - 10/23/03 04:11 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

Well what is needed to be done is first gently simmer the DMT plant material in acidic water(lemon juice) for about 1 hour. Next filter and repeat the process with fresh water, do this until the water remains clear. Next repeat the process for the MAOI material.

Then drink the MAOI wait 1 hour then drink the DMT, Also I have found that if you filter the brew lots then there is some loss in potencey but there is little or no sickness.



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Re: Ayahuasca [Re: EvilGir]
    #2035380 - 10/23/03 09:02 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

make sure not to get the mimosa, if this is ur first time making the brew ull never suceed with bark.


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Re: Ayahuasca [Re: BlueTalon]
    #2035455 - 10/23/03 09:42 AM (18 years, 6 days ago)

And you need to boil it in a pressure cooker for more than 24 hours.

I have posted the vine images and the leaves of Pychotria viridis at this URL along with several books on the subject:


http://www.nansnook.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=12721

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Tomorrow I am going to post the cooking instructions which came from Alan Shumaker, vitamin c is also added tot he cooking.

Shumaker is a Shaman of ayahuasca for many years providing sessions all over the world from Japan to Europe he has given C aa[pi Vine session and acted as Shaman. He is the person whose large Boat shipment was seized at sea a few years ago by the DEA. He is currenly awaiting trial. However, at the time of the raid and bust he had the proper papers approved for importing the two ingeredient many other plants from the Amazon. The DEA are trying to make a big issue over the importation of South American Plants to the USA.

Here is a picture of the vine and the leaves and these are enoough for three doses.

By the way, these images are from four years ago and the products in the pictures are long gone, except for Jar Jar.

The vine is about 14 inches long and one and a half inches thick. Enough for three doses.




And here is Jar Jar with the leaves for this mixture, enough for three doses.

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Some preparations such as the yage vines of Caapi and San Pedro take from four hours to 24. one has to be patient in their vision quests.

mj

btw, the bark has to be smashed into a pulp.. Thus the long cooking of the vine in a pressure cooker. Even the shreadded bark has to be really shreaded to a pulp. remember that in preparation.

aAlso this is a compound that should be taken in the presence of friend or other swho can guide you incase everything gets too intense for you.

Should not be taken alone


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Re: Ayahuasca *DELETED* [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2036237 - 10/23/03 02:47 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

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Re: Ayahuasca *DELETED* [Re: LCid]
    #2036386 - 10/23/03 03:29 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

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Re: Ayahuasca [Re: LCid]
    #2036473 - 10/23/03 03:53 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

AlAN SHUMAKERS CASE INVOLVES A WHOLE FREIGHTER OF THE INGREDIENTS AND INCLUDED SOMETHING LIKE SEVERAL TONS, NOT BARRELS. IT IS SEPARATE FROM THAT CASE YOU MENTION AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT CASE.. SHIT NO ONE CAN USE PEYOTE UNLESS THEY ARE 1/4 OINDIAN AND A MEMBER OF THE nATIVE AMERICAN CHURCH, THAT IS LEGAL USE.

ANYONE CAN TAKE PEYOTE WHETHER IT IS LEGAL OR NOT. jUST DO NOT GET CAUGHT. ONCE YOU'VE EATEN IT THERE IS NO PROOF IT EXISTED.

THEY, THE GOVERNMENT OF THE U.S.A. ARE NOT GOING TO ALLOW PSUYCHEDELIC DRUGS AS RELIGIOUS SACREMENTS IN THIS COUNTRY.

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Re: Ayahuasca *DELETED* [Re: mjshroomer]
    #2036668 - 10/23/03 04:59 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

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Re: Ayahuasca [Re: LCid]
    #2036741 - 10/23/03 05:34 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

As I have mentioned before I have a vision problem and I do not take pills.

I sometimes hit the key while looking at the key nbpard becaus eof the way my keyboard is set to my left on my computer table.

After typing I look up to see the caps had been locked and i do not feel like going back and retyping the whole post. Has nothing to do with you. I wear tri-focals and have a hard time seeing my screen above my head higher up then my keyboard.

mj

have a shroomy day


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    #2036874 - 10/23/03 06:30 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

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Re: Ayahuasca [Re: LCid]
    #2037323 - 10/23/03 08:20 PM (18 years, 5 days ago)

If you were edited it surely wasn't by me, although sometimes you need to be.

have a shroomy ay,

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