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Bill_Oreilly
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China cat IVs DMT and everyone drools over him..but when I do it nobody cares.
Fuck China cat. He doesn't follow the rules to the game. He's a liar. A great exaggerater
But I do it with honesty bringing my experience to that experience and try telling people that IV 4aco is a whole new level and I get ridiculed.
But go ahead everyone, believe China cats lies.
Perception is reality but that still doesn't make it true!
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Shineonyoucrazy
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Bill do you have the link to your report? Interested to read it
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majicman30
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Bill_Oreilly said: China cat IVs DMT and everyone drools over him..but when I do it nobody cares.
Fuck China cat. He doesn't follow the rules to the game. He's a liar. A great exaggerater
But I do it with honesty bringing my experience to that experience and try telling people that IV 4aco is a whole new level and I get ridiculed.
But go ahead everyone, believe China cats lies.
Perception is reality but that still doesn't make it true!
Damn Bill you've done it too!!! WOW Peace & Love
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Amanita86
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Is it really that big of a deal? Did you IV it to experience the trip or to get cool points on the shroomery?
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pineninja
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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Amanita86] 2
#24771731 - 11/09/17 03:03 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trips come and go but cool points are here to stay.
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Thayendanegea
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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: pineninja] 1
#24771742 - 11/09/17 03:12 PM (6 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bills name used to me The Mushroom Jesus...That trip pretty much sent him into a spiral, If I'm not mistaken. He had some rough days.
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Bill_Oreilly
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That trip occured way before my mental health issues.
The very first time i experienced schizophrenia type thoughts was here on the shroomery, actually. I was in the shroomery chat and a couple users started messing with me saying i was going to be killed and all this crazy stuff i believed 100%. Then the whole chat turned on me and it made me horrified. I was reading everything everyone wrote in a different way. I took every word and spun them automativally in my head to fit the notion i was going to be killed.
I forget the user, but lurking around here is 1 user who is responsible for the start of my schizophrenia. He thought it was funny to fuck with me but didnt know how bad he was fucking with me
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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GlenWillson
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Im scared of DMT
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Thayendanegea
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I thought that trip was your beginning, oh well, sorry....I remember some guy fucking with you though...can't remember his name. Anyway, sounds like you're doing well now.
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Thayendanegea
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Surprisingly, besides the part i was more or less 'knocked out' from an overdose of informational energy. i never left my bedroom. I know i describe the trip as being in a hyperspace mode, yes, but it was more like a 'shift' that was turned on in my brain, it was like the secret shadow was unveiled and this reality is literally a stage by the aliens and this realization had me swept off my feet, i was watching and asking questions the whole time trying to deny the answers these aliens were giving me, and eventually when me and the alien spirits got down to it, it proved me wrong in all ways and felt like an idiot for questioning them. You will receive any question you ask. I promise. I never saw these aliens, only heard there distinct voice of meaning in a telepathic like dream-state of virtual reality.
After this level 12 experience, i realized why i considered it a level 12. Yes. You heard me. Another experienced IV user of 4-aco-dmt reports shooting 30mg, having a level 5, then shooting 40mg and reported it felt like DOUBLE(see) and was saying his goodbyes prepping for his death he was certain he just invoked, like i did.
I have tripped many times in my life, if i were to give you all a honest, but rough estimate, it goes something like this....Salvia 10-20x(7 times) Mushrooms(about 20 times) N-N-DMT(about 5 times) LSD(about 4 times) 25C-NBOMe(1 time, high dose) DXM(3 times) mescaline(1 time) and a few others....this 4-acO-dmt trip blew every single one of them out of the water, and if i had a choice i would pick that 1 trip rather than all my others combined.
So take it for what it is.
Very first off...I tell you all and live by, and stress by this experience, TO SPREAD TRUTH. If you guys are serious about understanding the realm dmt couldnt dream of taking you, you NEED to try a large dose of IV. N-N-DMT does not give you this rush, and experience. N-N Dmt when injected, even said by mckenna, takes about 10 minutes to start working. This 4-aco, i wouldnt be surprised existed all along and it was the 'ultimate experience'. They had to know about this state of mind before they claimed. I am very confident to say i tapped into the 'gaian mind'..i witnessed THEE eschaton and what the whole malarkey is about experiencing the end. Because i did just that..here goes my sorry attempt to even trying to describe what happend that faithful day...
First off, let me say this. I am just a messenger. I havent been taught much in life, but always stayed true to myself in an epic, yet wreckless search of true knowledge. I am a loser, i flood myself with the most powerful tryptamines known to mankind and simply waits to see what happens. Well one night...i really did it this time fellers. When i tell you how my trip went, to my honest perspective as a human being, is how it went down and these this isnt just some drugs you do to get high, this is FOR THE HARDCORE TERENCE MCKENNA type psychonauts ONLY and i did not know what i was getting myself into, even after smoked dmt 5 times, 4 hits each, and once on psilocybin. Im not even sure if i was allowed to have this experience.
Break the bag open thinking im only shooting up a minor amount, which turned out to be about 40mgs, an apparent 'sweet spot' that i had somehow hit. This experience has cult written all over it, after injecting this highly potent milky solution, i was overwealmed by a 'rush' that was unlike any heroin rush, and i know my rushes. Im saying to myself "i cant believe i did this and my family is going to have to go on without me, oh well its too late now! i thought...then BOOM I exited the game at that moment. Electrical waves of information downloaded in the whole MATRIX-TYPE BARCODE running up my body at the speed of light while im spazzing and paralyzed in ecstasy, i looked at the arm i injected the substance in and it was covered in green black and white numbers in straight lines. running rapidly up and down my body, this was right when the rush started to cease, and right when the rush ended, and i was dead, there was this LOUD LOUD buzzing mixed with a beeping sound, and energy is caving in and on my sorroundings until i am being pushed up and down at the same time i thought i could explode, i was paralyzed during and a about 30 seconds after the rush, while this force of downloaded alien barcoaded ultimate knowldge is experienced is pushing me forward, until i reached the IT. I was dead, facedown, cheek against the keyboard of my laptop. Never has even heroin done this to me. This made dmt look like childs play in 'meaning of life', for reasons like this. I did something only very few human beings have EVER done and couldnt dream of doing. What did you do, mr.mushroom jesus? I merged with the all-knowing supercomputer, i was under the impression the whole world was too, i thought "it must be december 21st, its the only explanation(until i came out of it and realized what i really did) i was literally experiencing THEE virtual reality, i believe terence mckenna spoke about. Everything was dmt-like visuals with just this all around higher-state, literally, my mind was elevating during the trip. So i merged with the ultimate computer and felt so humble, and felt like aliens landing outside my window and revealed to us it was all this huge stage set up to test humans true nature, and we failed. we FAILED. So, im thinking my parents are going through this as well, but i was in this state that was real, not just 'fucked up man'.
Lucky for us, they have mercy on us and realize that we were lead astray. So i have merged with the super-computer alien, was shown how life is a test/game/play, now what? I was then shown by these ultimate teaching spirits that i cant remmeber if it was a part of the supercomputer, or if they were spirits by themselves but they explained to me(or me just explaining myself) the secrets of the human consciousness, i was let in this mythical doorway that i always saw on science fiction tv shows, but of the brain. The brain works like a forgetting onion layer,or HONEYCOMB and we are experiencing only the outer layer with that limited capacity for informational output and input. What i did, was i worked myself IN FROM THE OUT...i shot the dmt and was propelled instantly into the center of THE HONEYCOMB or THE SUPERCOMPUTER working my way out throughout the experience.
The reason i feel the need to type this up is because i had this experience, and read a report, that was extracted out of the depths of the internet, of a kid who experienced just what i did, and it had the same effect on him as it did me...like what we did was we did THE IT...the strongest sense of "NOW YOU REALLY DID IT THIS TIME" "OH SO THIS IS WHAT ITS ABOUT"...10x more than any smoked dmt trip. This experience, you all will see in due time, is legit. The more IV experiences with this chemical the more YOU WILL HEAR TRIPS JUST LIKE MINE, NO MATTER HOW CRAZY I SOUND. I am paving the way for others to DARE plunge into this sea.
The way i can describe it is this. Your walking around the earth, then one day, as your walking down the street, you fall over a cliff and fall into the sea of knowledge. THEE SEA. A sea that nn-dmt does not know. A sea consisted of real hyper-technology and the whole 9 yards.
After puting this chemical into my arm i realized what life was about. To experience this life clenching gripping experience of death and life of pure emotion that injecting a large dose of 4-aco. I somehow swam to the depths of my brain and set this landmark there, that i can always revist in my mind, but not emotionally.
MUST be experienced FOR THE HARDEST OF HARDCORE ONLY. ONLY. ONLY. I am not saying i qualify, because this trip was so awesomly scary i have some now and refuse to revist that side because i honestly dont know if i will come back. Im just here to tell you that it does exist, and to fear not because we all return to this all knowing supercomputer is which ourselves. The feeling of realizing you been lied to your whole life, and needed to be told the truth by some white powder explains alot about the world we are living in right now. IM TELLING YOU...if you only get one thing out of all this it should be this....This is the leader of IT ALL. This ultimate IT, is beautiful. I remember asking the gods what would of happend if i had died. They shrugged me off in a way like "if you could of learned anything down here, its that death is the ultimate mystery you will need to wait to encounter". I was given a sneak peak by being able to merge with this machine, which is my brain. You guys dont get it, our animal bodys are CONDUCTORS of energy/information barcode. That is it. We are a vessel so that this god can experience itself in A NEW way TO AMAZE ITSELF, if that makes ANY FUCKING SENSE. Right after the rush starts to end you have this "flash" thats feels like getting hit in the back of the head by the all-knowing alien. I got the flash, which was like a knockout punch, and when i was experiencing the trip, throughout the whole trip i was really convinced the world was going through this as well, i didnt know my name was david and i had just shot up a very powerful drug. It was scary, yes, but the most amazing part.
One reason why this experience has meant more than any of you can imagine is that I GREW UP CHRISTIAN, I expected to see fairys, demons, angels..etc. Not higher-dimensional space technology that was my own brain....etc.
edit: you will all poke fun at me calling me a troll, until you IV the eschaton, that is. Then you will know. What, chicken shit? If you guys need to get an IV administered by an expert and you close your eyes while it goes in like the school girls we all were and just DO IT. No matter what, you need to get it done, by all means. That is...if you are serious about all this shit you all havent even sunken your teeth into, and i barely have. Im telling you, DO IT WHILE ITS LEGAL...One day there will be a kid like myself, who does this crazy act, and demands to know what the FUCK just happened, he will read THIS trip report and go "wow, good to know im not the only one...."
After the rush it is hard to really know in chronological order, what happened. Im giving you my best realizations of the bits and chunks i went through.
Incase anybody cares, here is a quick experience from an experienced user of iv 4-aco on the drugs forum.
"SWIM's trip on 30mg was mostly crazy geostropic patterns and what not. No entities and nothing especially meaningful to SWIM. It was a hell of a ride.
Then, I tried 40mg. This dose was obviously stronger. It felt like twice as much. "Ahhhhhh... How will I get out of this?" SWIM kept thinking. He then gave into the trip and met all kinds of entities, deities, etc. He was in different dimensions of reality frequently. Changing between our world, the one above use three spaces all the way up to seventy two places above ours; all the way down to the negative numbers of dimensions.
Really... no one has any idea of how big this universe is? SWIM saw it all in under twenty minutes with just 40mg of 4 ACO DMT put into his arm. Try this, SWIM highly recommends it.
Peace."
Were all driving on the highway in life, life is being stopped in traffic until we die.
Smoking DMT and psilocybin by themselves or combined at any level, is like jumping off a huge ramp, and going as far as you get. without no getting hurt.
What i did...whatever that was....was jumping off the ramp and crashing into the wall, guts going everywhere and alien spirits scraping them off and smoking the bits and pieces little by little with some tin foil and a straw(lol). This is the single most epic experience known to man, and somebody needs to try this. I may sound craxy, but what i have is REPEAT ABILITY on my side 
I also want to add, that i will most likely never purchase this chemical again, being confident i was fortunate it gave me "The Ultimate Experience". I really have less urge to experiment with other tryptamines, but do so anyway, just not 4-aco-dmt, although, upon further thinking i do want to try vapeing it and eating a heavy dose, maybe 50 mgs. I dont think i will ever be injecting this chemical again ever in my life, and defiantly wont be IVing any other tryptamine, for it would only shit on them. Honestly.
This is an instant RUSH..its what you get when you inject a drug into your bloodstream...i was doing it with heroin for 3 years and never got the feeling "UHP....IM DEAD" because of how severe it was. The effects that proceeded was me against this wall having a semi-seizure that was alien/matrix-barcoded driven surfing the wave of positive numbers all the way down to the negative with buzzing and beeping VERY loud. Then the experience worked its way out, and thats when i experienced everything i wrote.
This is the Holy Grail. If you dont believe me, dont call me a liar...TRY IT
I found your trip report.
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Bill_Oreilly
ANIMALS (the RAINBOW SERPENT)


Registered: 11/12/11
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GlenWillson said: Im scared of DMT
That's nothing to be ashamed of, young soulja
-------------------- Something there is mysteriously formed, Existing before Heaven and Earth, Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging, All-pervading, unfailing, I do not know its name; I call it tao. If forced to give it a name, I call it Great (ta). Being great, it flows out; Flowing out means far-reaching; Being far-reaching, it is said to return. It's just a shot away..
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Blabble40
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Was hoping for a bit more detail but.. Interesting nonetheless.
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Psychonaut1029
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I might as well share my experience with iv dmt. Im not proud of this, but this is what happened. I had been having trouble with smoking my dmt freebase and getting anywhere, so i decided i would just inject some. I put a LOT (too much, i would later find out) into the spoon with some vinegar and drew it into the syringe. My plan was to inject it, toss the needle and lay on my side before i went out, incase i vomit i didnt want to aspirate. I injected it and almost immediately felt nauseous as i rolled on my side. The next thing i remember, i am in an all white room with a 1950's style nurse (outfit and all) taking care of me as i stare at the ceiling in a state of confusion and wonder. I remember there was a glass shelving unit that was seperated into square storage spaces. Through each square was a different point in space and time. I could look through them and watch what was going on. I slowly started to fade back into reality as my entire room was white and full of light. With a nasty taste in my mouth, and eyes wide open, i layed there for a while, looking at my brown shirt. Then i realized that my shirt wasnt brown. It was blue and i was COVERED in puke. I had projectile vomited all over myself and my bed. I went to the mirror and saw, for the first time in years, my old addict self. Ashamed and frustrated, i cleaned myself up and tried to laugh it off. I ended up feeling AMAZING for the rest of the day. Not high, just euphoria. The idiocy of the experience aside, i realized that all the dmt in the world wont break you through unless you are ready. Ive since figured out how to smoke it properly and have taken a couple steps back to ensure i dont slide back into my old ways.
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Shenmue
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chinacat72 said: Don't be nervous man. Smoking it is not nearly as intense as slaming it. Smoking it is a very good way to get the full effect. Its intense, but IV is just fuckin crazy. 
My prefered method is to smoke 50mg. after the peak of a shroom trip. This alows me to get more out of the experiance. I'm able to stay up longer and its not as big of a shock because I'm already high and open from the mushrooms. 
Actually that's not 100% true. Smoking it can be just at intense as IV but it doesn't last as long. You can literally smoke to the point where you black out and don't remember anything.
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Shenmue
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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Shenmue]
#26089741 - 07/04/19 10:20 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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There's really no good reason to IV dmt. Its extremely dangerous to IV dmt that you extracted at home. It has to be extremely clean or it can fucking kill you! Good luck injecting and pulling out the needle out before you blast off 😳!
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Psychonaut1029
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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Shenmue]
#26089769 - 07/04/19 10:29 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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To be fair, its not difficult to get the injection in and then put the needle on the table or something. I wouldnt reccommend trying to put the cap back on it though. Probably not enough time for that. As far as it killing you, i wouldnt be so sure. Whens the last time u heard of junkies dying because of impurities? They inject unsafe substances many times a daily. I doubt that a few dmt injections is going to do any harm. Dont take this as me saying that theres zero risk involved ,though.
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Shenmue
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Psychonaut1029 said: To be fair, its not difficult to get the injection in and then put the needle on the table or something. I wouldnt reccommend trying to put the cap back on it though. Probably not enough time for that. As far as it killing you, i wouldnt be so sure. Whens the last time u heard of junkies dying because of impurities? They inject unsafe substances many times a daily. I doubt that a few dmt injections is going to do any harm. Dont take this as me saying that theres zero risk involved ,though.
I just know how stupid people are. You should see how some of these idiot's are extracting their dmt! I was a dmtnexus member for years and I've watched several extraction videos. A lot of these kids are using plastic extraction vessels and not giving the solvent enough time to separate from the solution. They almost never do a re-x at the end. If they purchased the dmt off the street God knows what else is in it. I don't recommend you IV DMT unless you have a proper laboratory and 100% pure solvents.
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Shenmue
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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Shenmue]
#26089799 - 07/04/19 10:41 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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It might be easy for you to inject but some people are extremely sensitive to dmt! I blast off almost instantly once the vapor hits my lungs. Some people take a little longer.
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Psychonaut1029
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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Shenmue]
#26089818 - 07/04/19 10:46 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: It might be easy for you to inject but some people are extremely sensitive to dmt! I blast off almost instantly once the vapor hits my lungs. Some people take a little longer.
i would argue that thats not relevant. The only relevant point would be that i am probably more experienced with needles than alot of people. Takes me 5 seconds to poke, draw, and inject. Another second later and im laying down ready to trip. As far as smoking it goes, i just take hits until i blast off. I never remember exhaling my last hit. And i would agree with the post that said that smoked dmt can be as intense as iv dmt. Depends on how much you can get in your lungs before you go OOB, in my experience. The heavy iv dose seemed to last a bit longer though.
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Psychonaut1029
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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Shenmue]
#26089833 - 07/04/19 10:50 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Shenmue said:
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Psychonaut1029 said: To be fair, its not difficult to get the injection in and then put the needle on the table or something. I wouldnt reccommend trying to put the cap back on it though. Probably not enough time for that. As far as it killing you, i wouldnt be so sure. Whens the last time u heard of junkies dying because of impurities? They inject unsafe substances many times a daily. I doubt that a few dmt injections is going to do any harm. Dont take this as me saying that theres zero risk involved ,though.
I just know how stupid people are. You should see how some of these idiot's are extracting their dmt! I was a dmtnexus member for years and I've watched several extraction videos. A lot of these kids are using plastic extraction vessels and not giving the solvent enough time to separate from the solution. They almost never do a re-x at the end. If they purchased the dmt off the street God knows what else is in it. I don't recommend you IV DMT unless you have a proper laboratory and 100% pure solvents.
youre for sure right that its not a good idea, and people are stupid. Im a dumbass for injecting freebase dmt. My position is that its a bit of an exaggeration to say that itll kill you, though. Although its possible, its unlikely.
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