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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Seril]
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That is so crazy. I'm not sure if I would ever want to do DMT because it would be so hard to process afterword and make my life seem so pointless trivial and infinitely small. I think there are definately some good reasons to maintain the illusion of our little microcosms here on earth.


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1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..."
2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."

Edited by Divided_Sky (03/01/05 11:56 PM)

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Divided_Sky]
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could you elaborate a little on the "oil pipe". I did a search, both google and froogle, and couldn't find anything. Also, how do I go about smoking it? Just heat with butane torch until enough vapor builds up, then suck? Some pics would be great if you could.

Thanks, and sorry for asking such dumb and basic questions, but I'm sure others out there are wondering, and I haven't been able to find the answers to these anywhere.

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: FirstAvailable]
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I wanted to say two things CC72, first, your posts are amongst my favorite reads ever, right along the seventies subliminal seduction and covert CIA thought warfare, anarchy cookbooks and poor mans james bond. Ie., you rock! And here's my question, how have you integrated the psychedelic experience into your ontology,epistemology, and ethics. Truely Dude, should you publish a novel called meetings with inner ufos, or inner eye on the dakini tribes, or something I'll buy.


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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Divided_Sky said:
That is so crazy. I'm not sure if I would ever want to do DMT because it would be so hard to process afterword and make my life seem so pointless trivial and infinitely small. I think there are definately some good reasons to maintain the illusion of our little microcosms here on earth.


You squash your own power and individualism with such thoughts.

Im undecided on the *goodness* of our illusions.

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Divided_Sky said:
That is so crazy. I'm not sure if I would ever want to do DMT because it would be so hard to process afterword and make my life seem so pointless trivial and infinitely small. I think there are definately some good reasons to maintain the illusion of our little microcosms here on earth.


for me personally, it did the opposite
i mean, yea its very hard to process afterwards

but it showed me that the universe is incredibly huge and unbelievable, and life and death and existence are amazing
even though us humans are incredibly small....something BIG is going on with existence and every little thing is an important part of it

at least thats how i feel, others may disagree


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Help on the Way]
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I can see that. I suppose which way you go with it has to do with your own disposition.


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1. "After an hour I wasn't feeling anything so I decided to take another..."
2. "We were feeling pretty good so we decided to smoke a few bowls..."
3. "I had to be real quiet because my parents were asleep upstairs..."

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Divided_Sky]
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But don't be fooled into thinking it is one way or the other.
It is both and yet neither too. It is all of these.
That is what it means to live in the Universe.


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No ONE wants to know the ultimate TRUTH, as soon as YOU find IT out, YOU want to forget IT.

You are everything's way of feeling itself.

Happy Schwag, everygodly!

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: mecreateme]
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The original post here is very interesting.

Quote:
I started to come down about 400 years later.


Damn... Can you expand on the profundity of that? Did it really seem like 400 years? I've been thinking about time perception and also reading about how hallucinogens can make time space out. I remember on LSD thinking that five minutes was like an hour so at least conceptually I can see the possibility of what you're saying. Assuming that what you're saying is not an exaggeration do you feel in a sober frame of mind enough connection with the time spent in the DMT trip to where you actually feel like you lived for 400 years in another universe? I know that drug experiences are often next to ineffable but if you could I'd like any thoughts you have about or descriptions of the passage of time during your trip or even the concept of time in general based on what you've learned from this experience. Thank you.


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[quote]Asante said:
You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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hah, i cant speak for chinacat,
but when i did DMT, i was gone and traveling other worlds for a  very long time....so long i forgot earth and my life existed, definitely seemed like i was gone longer than i'd lived on earth

the weirdest part is when i came back, after long ago surrendering any ties to earth....coming back and realizing this place still existed and i was back to being a human being on this planet....

i almost shit a brick :smile:
only thing i could do was lay there and say "OMG" for like 10 minutes

but thats just my experience

Edit:  i only smoked it though, i bet IVing would seem way longer


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

Edited by Slipknot420 (03/04/05 06:25 PM)

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: chinacat72]
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I just saw this thread tonight.

Words: Stay with us. Your presence is needed.

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Help on the Way]
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Slipknot420 said:
hah, i cant speak for chinacat,
but when i did DMT, i was gone and traveling other worlds for a  very long time....so long i forgot earth and my life existed, definitely seemed like i was gone longer than i'd lived on earth

the weirdest part is when i came back, after long ago surrendering any ties to earth....coming back and realizing this place still existed and i was back to being a human being on this planet....

i almost shit a brick :smile:
only thing i could do was lay there and say "OMG" for like 10 minutes

but thats just my experience

Edit:  i only smoked it though, i bet IVing would seem way longer


Maybe someday, you'll wake up on some different planet and realize that Earth and DMT were just a big hallucination from some other drug.


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[quote]Asante said:
You constantly make posts thatr fling middle school insults at people you don't like mixed in with maladjusted psychopathic comments about wanting to beat up the other poster with a crowbar.

You know how shit you are, you just don't give a fuck for precisely that reason.

I disendorse you.[/quote]

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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Whoa that would be fuckin insane

i wonder if in the end i would have considered it a good or bad trip


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Help on the Way]
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good is bad and bad is good :wink:


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When chemistry is outlawed.. Only outlaws have chemistry:rainbowdrink:

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Infrared]
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word


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Infrared]
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Dat is da truth.

Maybe we will all wake up from the drugs that are each other? Drugs the old friend who comes through all the galaxies with us God Children, oh the ride, oh the game. Let us repeat this one again... :mushroom2:


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No ONE wants to know the ultimate TRUTH, as soon as YOU find IT out, YOU want to forget IT.

You are everything's way of feeling itself.

Happy Schwag, everygodly!

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: Help on the Way]
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Slipknot420 said:
only thing i could do was lay there and say "OMG" for like 10 minutes


Any time I say OMG while tripping I have this strange guilty feeling for assuming the God was mine, that I'm ignoring other Gods. Usually I won't say it again after that.

Interesting thread :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
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yeh get your own god! This one is mine!... no not that one, this one! the one and only. You know the one im talking about right?

erm... anyway this is a real interesting thread!


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Look, let me explain something. I'm not Mr. Lebowski; you're Mr. Lebowski.
I'm the Dude. So that's what you  call me.  That, or Duder.  His  Dudeness.
Or El Duderino, if, you know, you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: TheFakeSunRa]
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TheFakeSunRa said:
The original post here is very interesting.

Quote:
I started to come down about 400 years later.


Damn... Can you expand on the profundity of that? Did it really seem like 400 years? I've been thinking about time perception and also reading about how hallucinogens can make time space out. I remember on LSD thinking that five minutes was like an hour so at least conceptually I can see the possibility of what you're saying. Assuming that what you're saying is not an exaggeration do you feel in a sober frame of mind enough connection with the time spent in the DMT trip to where you actually feel like you lived for 400 years in another universe? I know that drug experiences are often next to ineffable but if you could I'd like any thoughts you have about or descriptions of the passage of time during your trip or even the concept of time in general based on what you've learned from this experience. Thank you.


It's cool that you should mention that. there are a few current theories floating around the theoretical physics circuit that say that time is an artificial concept created by people, and fundamentally, there really is no such thing as time.

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: FirstAvailable]
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any acid head coulda told you that :wink:


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:shocked: *Divine Moments of Truth* :shocked:


"Limitless undying love which shines around me like a million suns - it calls me on and on across the universe" ~ John Lennon

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" ~The Grateful Dead

"Religionists, with their guaranteed eventual paradise, of which they know nothing, taking it all on 'faith,' can't be expected to understand or sympathize with those with a yen to storm the Gate of Heaven and see for themselves what all the praying's about!" ~Robert Hunter

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Re: IV DMT Revisited [Re: eve69]
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Quote:
how have you integrated the psychedelic experience into your ontology,epistemology, and ethics


The experiance's have totaly influenced my perspective, beliefs and ethics.
My beliefs stem directly from what is gleaned from peak psychedelic experiances. I have more faith in the info provided from these experiances then anything learned from this limited plane of reality of everyday conciousness.


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Some rise
Some fall
Some climb
To get to Terrapin!!!

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