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OfflineYellowSubmarine
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Do you have to be a chemist to extract DMT?
    #2274545 - 01/26/04 01:33 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The most difficult thing I have ever done is grow shrooms and even that wasn't difficult. How difficult is it to make your own DMT crystals out of Mimosa Hostilis? I have some TEKS that I read about over at erowid.com, doesn't look too too difficult, but then again...

Those of you who have or know of those who have extracted their own DMT, did you have trouble the first round? Was the end product really worth the effort? :eyemouth:


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #2274601 - 01/26/04 02:09 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm in the same boat as you. I'll be making it this friday. It doesnt seem like it would be terribly difficult, however I have taken a year of college level chemistry.


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #2274673 - 01/26/04 02:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The teks available out there are so clear, I think anyone could do it with a little patience. You don't really have to know the chemistry behind it, just follow the steps.


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: Noviseer]
    #2274687 - 01/26/04 02:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

if its not that hard maybe my foaf should try it, whats the link to the tek you were working with


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #2274806 - 01/26/04 03:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

well to synthesize it i think you pretty much have to be a chemist

but to just extract it, just follow the steps and get all the materials


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: Help on the Way]
    #2274835 - 01/26/04 03:55 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

that's exactly what I was thinking.....

to MAKE DMT is quite a hefty process - to EXTRACT it though is pretty simple although it usually won't be nearly as pure as synthed dmt unless you're a fucking PRO at extractions..

Regardless, yellowsubmarine, you are ready - go for it and stay safe

edit: oh and PS, be sure to check out A New Way to Say Horray after a couple silent experiences


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: Strumpling]
    #2274895 - 01/26/04 04:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Thank you strumping. After I got the 'go ahead' from you, I'm feeling a little better about all of this.  :thumbup: :crazy2:

I'm just new to the whole realm of altered conciousness. I tried shrooms for the first time 2 years ago and have loved them ever since but never got the balls to go on a 5gram journey. DMT scares and appeals to me because of its short duration. Although, I still feel like I am too inexperienced to be playing with such substances, but then again, I was scared shitless before trying mushrooms and whilst peaking realized that all my fears are natural but just fears themselves. It's time to face the fear! I ordered salvia, so I'll be trying that first, if I like or at least, if I can accept the drug, I'll be moving on so to speak.

I read an interview with McKenna about his DMT usage. He can convey abstract ideas so well. He mentioned in Pink Floyd's "The gnome" they sing about gnomes finding a new way to say Hooray! I listened to it and sure enough it was there. They even say it the same way McKenna says it on the shpongle album. Hoooooooooo ooooo raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #2275133 - 01/26/04 05:54 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

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I ordered salvia, so I'll be trying that first, if I like or at least, if I can accept the drug, I'll be moving on so to speak.






If salvia doesn't agree with you, don't let that discourage you from doing DMT. A lot of people hate salvia and love DMT.


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: Noviseer]
    #2275216 - 01/26/04 06:22 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, I've definetly heard that response as well. Salvia seems to prepare you for the out of body type experience produced by these two distinct drugs.

I keep reading up on DMT like a madman. I keep getting more and more excited and scared.  :shiftyeyes: !!!


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #2275312 - 01/26/04 06:50 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

DMT is a much nicer experience than Salvia.

I've tried both salvia extract & leaf with my friends on a few occasions, none of us liked it and haven't touched it since  :thumbdown:


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #2276159 - 01/27/04 12:42 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm in the same boat as you, YellowSub (hahaha! unintentional pun.)

There's 110g of mimosa hostilis rootbark in my cat's freezer right now.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/extraction_guide1/dmt_extraction_guide1.shtml

that's probably the best extraction tek out there.

I'd be happy to discuss methods, progress, and experiences with you.


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #2277067 - 01/27/04 10:53 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

is it easy to grow your own mimosa rootbark or is simpler to buy it from a store?


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: SMAGE]
    #2277661 - 01/27/04 03:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Just buy it man...it's not too expensive at all.

Also, if any of you who are attempting to extract should also look at this  psychopsilocyber's page

He's got alot of really useful info on there plus a bunch of pictures.  You should definitely check it out if you haven't already.  :wink:


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: SMAGE]
    #2277949 - 01/27/04 04:44 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's pretty cheap. Even at a reported .57% DMT by weight, 110g of rootbark will yield about 60 potent doses of DMT.


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: Kid_Orgo]
    #2280288 - 01/28/04 12:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

math check...
627 milligrams of DMT is not 60 potent doses, sorry...


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: gnrm23]
    #2282329 - 01/29/04 01:17 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

at max dose of about 70mg we're talking more like about 9.

plus you need to account for inevitable losses during extraction.


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: utopianglory]
    #2282610 - 01/29/04 02:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

As a typical begineer, following a simple DMT tek, how much would you get out of a half-pound of root bark eh?

cool.


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #2290861 - 02/01/04 01:18 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

If you do it right you should get a bit below 2 grams.


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: psychopsilocyber]
    #2291020 - 02/01/04 03:44 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

So, as someone with a bit more of a chemistry education than most of the people posting to this thread (I'm not trying to be egotisitcal, but the most I've heard anyone say they've had is one year of college level chemistry) I'd like to add my two cents.

Someones who has never been involved in a chemical porcess more involved that freezing water can safely extract the DMT out of M. hostilis so long as they have sound instructions and follow them to the best of their ability. The same thign could eb said for someone who's never made anyhting mroe complex than toast baking their first cake.

There are some thing to keep in mind though. An important one is solvents. Most online teks for this sort of thing involve using acetone, napthalene, or IPA as they are the easiest solvents to aquire with out going to a chemical supply house. But there is a difference between reagent grade solvents and solvents sold for use as paint strippers and nail polish removers. Personally, I wouldn't use industrial grade solvents like these with out cleaning them first with drying agents or fractional distillation. I'm also of the opinion that if you plan on actually consumming the product (something that for legal reasons I would not suggest doing here) the solvent should be removed under vacuum, not just allowed to evaporate off. These are not complex procedures, but do require basic lab equipment and knowledge of technique. Skipping them won't kill you, and you'll still ge twhat you're after, but with something like DMT where tiny differences in dose make huge differences in effect you want to be able to know what you're taking, and if you have no idea what purity you're ectract is, you're only guessing. Melting point is the easist way to check this, and while simple in procedure, this again requires a basic (yet expensive) piece of equipment (MP oil bath for capillary tubes or a really nice hotplate).

I'll stop, but I d have to say that while you more than liekly won't have any problems, I would suggest that if you don't understand what you're doing you need to do more research before you try.


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Re: Do you have to be a chemist to make DMT? [Re: Teon]
    #2291459 - 02/01/04 12:00 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Its pretty easy to make a bulk dmt extract out of mimosa hostilis. Washing it so you have purer crystals is a bit harder but you still don't have to be a chemist to do it...

Don't try to synthetize it if youre not a chemist though :tongue:


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