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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
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xDuckYouSuckerx said:
LoL... well, feeling GREAT just simply feels GREAT!  If I sleep in some days, which I do occasionally, I always feel run down that day.  I feel better now getting in a heavy workout per day and working a full time job than I did when I worked a full time job and slept frequently.

Are you near a place where you can take yoga?


Yes actually...there's yoga all over the place down here.  I've been meaning to start a yoga class for months now.  Have you been sent from above to give me the final go-ahead push?  :blush:

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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
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haha yes :smile:

It's REALLY worth it.  Just the stretches and such, learning how to breathe (another GIGANTIC health benefit), everything about it is just awesome!

Let me know if you start up and how you feel


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
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I wish it was that easy.
If i go to bed at 12am, and wake up at 8, the next night i won't be able to sleep till 1am. Eventually if i try getting up at the same time i'll be on two hours sleep a night right through to the point where i won't sleep at all for one day, then that night i'd start the whole thing again from the begining.

I also have this psychological thing where it doesn't matter how tired i am, once it reaches a certain time of night i won't be able to sleep till my usual time. Ive gone 3 days straight without any sleep, and still not been able to get any rest even though i'm absolutely knackered.

Ive had this most of my life.
It's just one of those things i guess, ive tried many times to try and fix it.
Your advice is good though, i'm not denying it  :smile:.

Reply meant for xDuckYouSuckerx, sorry !  :cool:

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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Mike_yy]
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No problem. Yea, insomnia SUCKS. Some things that other people swore by didn't work for me. I guess it's just am atter of finding out what personally works for your specific "condition". Nothing sucks more than being unable to get to sleep when you've got to get up at 8 for a 12 hour day the next day, looking at the hours roll by on the alarm clock.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
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EllemyshShade said:
What can you recommend for getting an adequate amount of sleep? I either don't sleep enough (wake up 2-3 hours before my alarm, without fail) or I just pass out after work and sleep for over half a day.



generally if you wake up before the alarm, it means you have gotten enough sleep. it depends though. you could be waking up too much and not being restful.

but i've heard that to tell if you are being sleep deprived, do you need the alarm to wake you up? if you are waking up before the alarm, it means you're getting enough sleep.

the trick is to jump out of bed and get up for the day instead of lying around sleeping in til the alarm goes off.

me i've been getting 12 hours of sleep almost all this week since i haven't had to work. i don't like that it puts me up at about 11 or 12 in the day/afternoon but it works alright.
xDuckYouSuckerx said:
I used to have HORRIBLE insomnia, I could stay up three days, I couldn't sleep when I wanted to, it really sucked. Then I read an article about it and how a guy "solved" his. Wake up at the same time in the morning. don't worry about when you go to bed. If you end up getting two hours of sleep one night, your body will be that much more tired the next time. Every single day of the week, try to wake up at the exact same time. Your body will learn that and self-adjust. I went from a horrible insomniac to a guy who doesn't even need an alarm clock to wake up sharply at 0600 in four weeks. Works GREAT!


this is very true, and I find it a better solution than going to bed earlier.

i.e. gotta start getting up early for school? well just get up early for school, doesn't really matter when you go to bed too much but if you are used to going to bed at midnight, then it's not fair to go to bed at 10 and expect to be falling asleep.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: leery11]
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Yea, waking up before the alarm is an excellent method of determining how well rested you are. And like ya said, get OUT OF BED at your appointed time. I usually wake up around 15 minutes 'early', so I always stretch out in bed, do some deep breathing, get my oxygen levels up high in my blood. Then I wake up, drink some ice cold water, take my multivitamin and do some calestinics to wake up. After that , I stretch out. Then I go to the gym, or whatever I'm doing.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: leery11]
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leery11 said:
EllemyshShade said:
What can you recommend for getting an adequate amount of sleep? I either don't sleep enough (wake up 2-3 hours before my alarm, without fail) or I just pass out after work and sleep for over half a day.



generally if you wake up before the alarm, it means you have gotten enough sleep. it depends though. you could be waking up too much and not being restful.


I think it's because of nerves. I am an incredibly light sleeper. I wake up in the middle of the night, think: "Oh, shit, how much time do I have before work?" and then even if I do breathing exercises and try to relax, I toss and turn until it eventually goes off (usually 2-3 hours later).

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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
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might I also suggest that many people can benefit from mental excercise as well?

spend your morning reading or studying something that interests you, and your whole day will be better off for it.

I've found that when I allow my mind to stagnate, depression soon follows.

remember that you don't have to be in school to excercise your mind- the public library is well-stocked, and just around the corner!

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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: DoctorJ]
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DoctorJ said:
might I also suggest that many people can benefit from mental excercise as well?

spend your morning reading or studying something that interests you, and your whole day will be better off for it. 

I've found that when I allow my mind to stagnate, depression soon follows. 

remember that you don't have to be in school to excercise your mind- the public library is well-stocked, and just around the corner!


:werd:

reading = k3y


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Silversoul]
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Reading, other problem solving skills. I work through math problems during the day to pass time and to keep my skills sharp. I can do math in my head very quickly.

of course, working out your body helps your mind work better


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Mike_yy]
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mikeyyork said:
You can't solve a problem by reversing the symptoms, when the symptoms are caused by something else.
That something else usually being a messed up brain.



I agree with this guy, though exercise is important, along with a good diet and sleep, many times people have mental disorders which are not from a lack of sleep, exercise or nutrition. Exercise might eventually ease the pain or whatever, but the initial problem still remains unsolved. This is avoidance.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: eligal]
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Maybe 2% of the time people have some serious, "real" problem.  MAYBE.  Most of the "illnesses" diagnosed today are bullshit, in my opinion.  I've never seen someone who was depressed out working out in the gym.  Never seen an insomniac who REALLY wanted to regulate their sleep do the things that I've done, or run a few miles before they go to bed.  A lot of times, people just convince themselves that they are TOO fat, or TOO old, or TOO whatever to exercize, thats complete bullshit.  I think that exercise retrains the mind to associate pleasure (endorphins) with working out, and I think that the more you work out the happier you are.  Again, some people do have some fucked up mental problems, thats beyond my scope to deal with :smile:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
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xDuckYouSuckerx said:
A lot of times, people just convince themselves that they are TOO fat, or TOO old, or TOO whatever to exercize



Agreed, but the people who have mental problems arent avoiding the gym because they feel too old or fat or what ever. They are too "what ever they are" to be bothered to go to the gym.


xDuckYouSuckerx said:
I think that exercise retrains the mind to associate pleasure (endorphins) with working out, and I think that the more you work out the happier you are.  Again, some people do have some fucked up mental problems, thats beyond my scope to deal with :smile:


Again, agreed that exercise releases endos and make people happy and get gym addicted. Im one of them. But some of the problems mentioned in this forum are alot deeper than a lack of exercise.


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"do you have the freedom to do with your nervous system what you want?"

"MolokoMilkPlus said:
I'll respect you if you let me give you a blow job"

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respect the can."


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: eligal]
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eligal said:
Agreed, but the people who have mental problems arent avoiding the gym because they feel too old or fat or what ever. They are too "what ever they are" to be bothered to go to the gym.



I've said that I do feel that SOME people, a very very small percentage of the "mentally ill" do have some sort of real, organic disease. The rest of them are probably, like all of us, just filled with negative self-talk.

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Again, agreed that exercise releases endos and make people happy and get gym addicted. Im one of them. But some of the problems mentioned in this forum are alot deeper than a lack of exercise.


I'd say that I think a VERy small percentage of people who have "depression" or whatever would be without benefit from exercize. Also, if those people who are suicidal or whatever, had tried exercizing when their depression was mild, who knows how much it would have helped?


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
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Hanging onto every word, mang :bigblunt:

It's so true. Sleep, excersize and proper diet is key. When one slips, the others are usually quick to follow and it will FUCK up your motivation and mind.

I just hit a slump, lots of nausea and anxiety for the past couple of days after having weeks of success in life, the gym and mind. Then I dropped my guard and got slammed. Skipping the gym today, getting my diet on track and planning on sleeping hard.


You would be absolutely AMAZED at how shitty you can feel one minute, go for a walk and give yourself just TEN minutes to just STFU and enjoy the sights, and you'll will feel wonderful. I did this just recently and I was having epiphanies left and right. It felt like a psychelic revolution. Spent some well needed time resting and meditating for the next few days and it really got things back on track.

My shit's been veered off course and it feels really nasty. I know that I could feel a hell of a lot better, so why waste my time wallowing and being a depressed bitch? Ain't no reason. We all spend way too much time letting ourselves being miserable. But once you get past these familiar traits, it's easy to shake all the other bad habits. Great advice, xDYSx. Have a good weekend, nuckas :cheers:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: browndustin]
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Hell yea man, I pounded my back and bicep today, freakin exhausted 'em.  Gonna smoke my last joint and pass out :smile:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
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i ride my bike to the nines, dead tired at the end of day. then i rad the fridge and hit the hay


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
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Hey I can see your points but I think your making a to large of a generalization of what it is to be down.............

They are many many reasons to be down....and many of them have nothing to do with the things you said.

After you have been an Adult for 10-15 years you'll see my point.

Good thread with good posts though :thumbup:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
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I don't know what to think about melatonin. There were times when it helped me sleep and other times when it seemed to be the reason that I'd wake up sweating my ass off in the middle of the night.

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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Fucknuckle]
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A lot of things are easier said than done eh

It's all a matter of just doing it. If you don't get out and take care of business, it's not going to take care of itself.

Yesterday I was too wrecked to go to the gym from not sleeping, but I hooked up with two childhood buddies and just walked for hours. Parked our asses at the lake, smoked a joint and a cigar or two and talked about the most subjects you can condense in about a 6 hour time span. Recharged my mental and spiritual batteries to the brim. I'm beaming with positivity today  :shineon:  :shineon:  :shineon:


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