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The Cure-All for 98% of these posts
    #5930604 - 08/04/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It's almost exhausting reading the posts in here. People with mental problems, social problems, overstressed, underexercized and using drugs left and right. So, I'll take a few minute here and answer them all

What you need is EXERCIZE, SLEEP and a PROPER DIET.

It's just that simple. Exercizing gets your blood pumping, removing metabolic byproducts of stress and a sedentary lifestyle. Lifting weights adds muscle, burns more calories and improves your self-esteem and your physical appearance. Getting the right amount of sleep on a normal sleep schedule trims down on depression and forces you to discipline yourself. If you aren't eating properly, you aren't putting the right fuel into your body. It's like pouring motor oil in to the gas tank of a Ferarri, it just won't run properly, if at all.

So, if you are depressed, or anti-social, or lack confidence, have low self-esteem, set yourself to a rigid schedule of 6-8 hours of sleep per night, waking up 'early', working out every day and eating healthy foods. I promise it'll make damn near any "mental" problem disappear.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5930631 - 08/04/06 06:59 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:  Good post.  Now we just need one to keep motivation alive.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5930916 - 08/04/06 09:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

All the things you mention are symptoms of someone who's depressed, not eating properly/poor sleep/lacking fitness.

If i'm depressed i can't eat, i can't sleep properly, and i certainly don't feel like exercising.

You can't solve a problem by reversing the symptoms, when the symptoms are caused by something else.
That something else usually being a messed up brain.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931009 - 08/04/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I agree...exercising can be the cure to a mood disorder. I know it helps me.

But occasionally when I'm not feeling right...I prefer to sleep, and sleep and sleep. Nothing like a surplus of dreams.

I often get on a regular sleep schedule of 6-8 hours a night like you mentioned. However, after a couple days of this and coming home from work covered in sweat, I'm so tired still that I just go to sleep for about 12-14 hours. It's hard to exercise when you're pooped from work.

Maybe it's just that my job is exhausting, who knows. Sleep and I have a complex relationship together.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5931045 - 08/04/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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mikeyyork said:
If i'm depressed i can't eat, i can't sleep properly, and i certainly don't feel like exercising.



or maybe you can eat, you can sleep properly, and you can exercise.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5931060 - 08/04/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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mikeyyork said:
All the things you mention are symptoms of someone who's depressed, not eating properly/poor sleep/lacking fitness.

If i'm depressed i can't eat, i can't sleep properly, and i certainly don't feel like exercising.

You can't solve a problem by reversing the symptoms, when the symptoms are caused by something else.
That something else usually being a messed up brain.





I disagree entirely. Your body releases endorphins when you work out. These endorphines tie "good feelings" in with "working out" and begins to retrain your brain. If you want to try something, spend one week waking up early, going to bed early, working out hard, eating properly and see if you feel better. If you do, make a comitment to do that for a month. Then, I guarantee, you'll feel much better about yourself.

The metabolic byproducts of being stressed out, eating fatty foods packed with sodium, sugar or artificial ingredients, sleeping more than 8 hours/night more than two daysa week, all of those symptoms of depression serve to keep you in worse shape. Begin reversing them.


Fast a day or so, just water, and let your digestive system settle down and process out the garbage. Start back with a healthy diet of small meals loaded with nutrients, lots of lean meat and low-fat-prepared vegetables. Follow the six meal diet, get a good nights sleep, and get your heart rate up for an hour a day. Do some stretching out in the morning and before bed, drink 6L of water (only!) per day. Your body will begin to shed the chemicals that are produced by a depressed lifestyle and begin to produce chemicals that encourage health.

Of course, taking a "Day off" when you need it is also important. But try one week of doing this (stay away from drugs too, if you want to go the whole mile) and I bet that most "depressed" people will feel better.

Although, my true prediction, the people so afflicted will allow their minds to tell them that working out isn't going to help them. They'll use negative, self-defeating "self-talk" to convince them to maintain the easy life of sitting around, playing video games, staying indoors and feeling sorry for yourself... Most people with depression, and I"m speaking from experience here, have the voice inside their head convincing them around the clock that workout out won't help them, that they can't stick to a diet, that they can't do whatever. When you start to do something like working out, when you start to feel healthier, when you start to see that you are becoming stronger and feeling better and sleeping less, you gain confidence. Confidence and depression can't coexist.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931068 - 08/04/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

also lots of water will help many things as well


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931073 - 08/04/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

What can you recommend for getting an adequate amount of sleep? I either don't sleep enough (wake up 2-3 hours before my alarm, without fail) or I just pass out after work and sleep for over half a day.

I was thinking supplementing my diet with melatonin, which I hear is good to help maintain a regular sleep schedule.

I've also stayed away from caffeine and carbonated beverages. Kava kava tea seems to help me get to sleep also.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
    #5931098 - 08/04/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Passionflower is really good for aiding sleep,, :smile:.



It's true that exercise will make you feel better, as will eating and sleeping well, but they are not a cure.
At best they will make it easier for you to deal with the problems you have, but those problems will still lie there and will still need dealing with/resolving in some way.

I'm not saying your wrong, i'm just saying that things are never that simple.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
    #5931100 - 08/04/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I used to have HORRIBLE insomnia, I could stay up three days, I couldn't sleep when I wanted to, it really sucked. Then I read an article about it and how a guy "solved" his. Wake up at the same time in the morning. don't worry about when you go to bed. If you end up getting two hours of sleep one night, your body will be that much more tired the next time. Every single day of the week, try to wake up at the exact same time. Your body will learn that and self-adjust. I went from a horrible insomniac to a guy who doesn't even need an alarm clock to wake up sharply at 0600 in four weeks. Works GREAT!


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931122 - 08/04/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm...yet again, discipline is a factor.  My work schedule varies dramatically, so to make this work I'd have to wake up at 6 am everyday.  Ouch. 

Except on my days off.    :smile:

Nah, seriously I've been wanting to try a consistant wake up time for awhile now.  I think it would do some good.  :thumbup:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
    #5931127 - 08/04/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Constant wake up time combined with a good workout in the morning, FIRST THING, will give you more energy than you thought possible. Guaranteed.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931131 - 08/04/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I will give it a try for the next week of work and report back.  :wink:  :cool:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931139 - 08/04/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

At first I was going to scoff at this post like I do to most of the universal cure type jargon.

However, this is very valid. Especially since my sleeping pattern is disjointed.  I get 3 hours sometime..sometimes 7...sometimes 2 hrs.

I think these suggestions may help considerably but I doubt alleviate certain personality/mood "abnormaliities". 

They are a tad deeper, yet any help is good :smile:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5931146 - 08/04/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Sleep is so critical to feeling good and being healthy. When you lift weights, you HAVE to rest. Going to the gym only breaks your muscles down, rest, stretching and protein build them back up. If you aren't getting good rest, your body isn't rebuilding itself. Too much rest and your body gets too lazy. 6-8 hours, hell, thats midnight till 6am sleeping, thats not bad really.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5931160 - 08/04/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Afro - Yea, definatly, some people probably do need serious medical help.  However, those people probably couldn't make it through one week of the program I talked about .  If you can do that, you probably are self-curable. :smile:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5931194 - 08/04/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

My sleep is complicated.
At the moment i smoke weed to help me sleep, but even with that i find it impossible to go to bed early.
Even if i do get into bed i'll just lie there awake until my normal sleeping time, which at the moment is about 6 in the morning.
Over weeks and months it gets progresively later, so it's like a couple of months ago i was falling asleep at 4-5'ish.

If i stop smoking dope ( ive done this twice for 6 months at a time ) my sleep goes totally out of sync.
I only ever need 8 hours sleep, but when i stop smoking i find i'm naturally awake for 18-20 hours a day.
So my bed time keeps doing circles, one week i'm getting up first thing in the morning, after another week or two i'm getting up at like 10 O'clock at night.

This makes holding a job down almost impossible, every job i have i get run down to the point that i can't function anymore.

Ive been a bad sleeper since i was born.
Sucks.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931200 - 08/04/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've noticed when I do get proper sleep, no drugs and exercise my mind goes into a hyper-active mania where I feel like I am literally the most powerful being in the world.  :smile:

Don't get me wrong...I enjoy this.  :grin: It makes me feel like creating chaos...oh the power! 

If I do this routine, by the end of the week I may request my name be changed to "Super-human-goddess-psychic-lady-of-magnificence, an icon-of-wonder." hehe.  :crazy2:

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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
    #5931203 - 08/04/06 11:35 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

LoL... well, feeling GREAT just simply feels GREAT! If I sleep in some days, which I do occasionally, I always feel run down that day. I feel better now getting in a heavy workout per day and working a full time job than I did when I worked a full time job and slept frequently.

Are you near a place where you can take yoga?


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5931208 - 08/04/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Mikey - I've been there before too. After a while, smoking pot doesn't give you that nice sleepy buzz, it makes you wired, somewhat paranoid, and hard to get to sleep. Like I said, one week, no drugs, waking up at the same time every morning, then exercizing, eating right and going to bed when your body tells you to. I promise you'll feel much better.


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