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The Cure-All for 98% of these posts
    #5930604 - 08/04/06 06:32 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

It's almost exhausting reading the posts in here. People with mental problems, social problems, overstressed, underexercized and using drugs left and right. So, I'll take a few minute here and answer them all

What you need is EXERCIZE, SLEEP and a PROPER DIET.

It's just that simple. Exercizing gets your blood pumping, removing metabolic byproducts of stress and a sedentary lifestyle. Lifting weights adds muscle, burns more calories and improves your self-esteem and your physical appearance. Getting the right amount of sleep on a normal sleep schedule trims down on depression and forces you to discipline yourself. If you aren't eating properly, you aren't putting the right fuel into your body. It's like pouring motor oil in to the gas tank of a Ferarri, it just won't run properly, if at all.

So, if you are depressed, or anti-social, or lack confidence, have low self-esteem, set yourself to a rigid schedule of 6-8 hours of sleep per night, waking up 'early', working out every day and eating healthy foods. I promise it'll make damn near any "mental" problem disappear.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5930631 - 08/04/06 06:59 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

:thumbup:  Good post.  Now we just need one to keep motivation alive.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5930916 - 08/04/06 09:45 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

All the things you mention are symptoms of someone who's depressed, not eating properly/poor sleep/lacking fitness.

If i'm depressed i can't eat, i can't sleep properly, and i certainly don't feel like exercising.

You can't solve a problem by reversing the symptoms, when the symptoms are caused by something else.
That something else usually being a messed up brain.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931009 - 08/04/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I agree...exercising can be the cure to a mood disorder. I know it helps me.

But occasionally when I'm not feeling right...I prefer to sleep, and sleep and sleep. Nothing like a surplus of dreams.

I often get on a regular sleep schedule of 6-8 hours a night like you mentioned. However, after a couple days of this and coming home from work covered in sweat, I'm so tired still that I just go to sleep for about 12-14 hours. It's hard to exercise when you're pooped from work.

Maybe it's just that my job is exhausting, who knows. Sleep and I have a complex relationship together.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5931045 - 08/04/06 10:43 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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If i'm depressed i can't eat, i can't sleep properly, and i certainly don't feel like exercising.



or maybe you can eat, you can sleep properly, and you can exercise.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5931060 - 08/04/06 10:51 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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All the things you mention are symptoms of someone who's depressed, not eating properly/poor sleep/lacking fitness.

If i'm depressed i can't eat, i can't sleep properly, and i certainly don't feel like exercising.

You can't solve a problem by reversing the symptoms, when the symptoms are caused by something else.
That something else usually being a messed up brain.





I disagree entirely. Your body releases endorphins when you work out. These endorphines tie "good feelings" in with "working out" and begins to retrain your brain. If you want to try something, spend one week waking up early, going to bed early, working out hard, eating properly and see if you feel better. If you do, make a comitment to do that for a month. Then, I guarantee, you'll feel much better about yourself.

The metabolic byproducts of being stressed out, eating fatty foods packed with sodium, sugar or artificial ingredients, sleeping more than 8 hours/night more than two daysa week, all of those symptoms of depression serve to keep you in worse shape. Begin reversing them.


Fast a day or so, just water, and let your digestive system settle down and process out the garbage. Start back with a healthy diet of small meals loaded with nutrients, lots of lean meat and low-fat-prepared vegetables. Follow the six meal diet, get a good nights sleep, and get your heart rate up for an hour a day. Do some stretching out in the morning and before bed, drink 6L of water (only!) per day. Your body will begin to shed the chemicals that are produced by a depressed lifestyle and begin to produce chemicals that encourage health.

Of course, taking a "Day off" when you need it is also important. But try one week of doing this (stay away from drugs too, if you want to go the whole mile) and I bet that most "depressed" people will feel better.

Although, my true prediction, the people so afflicted will allow their minds to tell them that working out isn't going to help them. They'll use negative, self-defeating "self-talk" to convince them to maintain the easy life of sitting around, playing video games, staying indoors and feeling sorry for yourself... Most people with depression, and I"m speaking from experience here, have the voice inside their head convincing them around the clock that workout out won't help them, that they can't stick to a diet, that they can't do whatever. When you start to do something like working out, when you start to feel healthier, when you start to see that you are becoming stronger and feeling better and sleeping less, you gain confidence. Confidence and depression can't coexist.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931068 - 08/04/06 10:53 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

also lots of water will help many things as well


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931073 - 08/04/06 10:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

What can you recommend for getting an adequate amount of sleep? I either don't sleep enough (wake up 2-3 hours before my alarm, without fail) or I just pass out after work and sleep for over half a day.

I was thinking supplementing my diet with melatonin, which I hear is good to help maintain a regular sleep schedule.

I've also stayed away from caffeine and carbonated beverages. Kava kava tea seems to help me get to sleep also.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
    #5931098 - 08/04/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Passionflower is really good for aiding sleep,, :smile:.



It's true that exercise will make you feel better, as will eating and sleeping well, but they are not a cure.
At best they will make it easier for you to deal with the problems you have, but those problems will still lie there and will still need dealing with/resolving in some way.

I'm not saying your wrong, i'm just saying that things are never that simple.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
    #5931100 - 08/04/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I used to have HORRIBLE insomnia, I could stay up three days, I couldn't sleep when I wanted to, it really sucked. Then I read an article about it and how a guy "solved" his. Wake up at the same time in the morning. don't worry about when you go to bed. If you end up getting two hours of sleep one night, your body will be that much more tired the next time. Every single day of the week, try to wake up at the exact same time. Your body will learn that and self-adjust. I went from a horrible insomniac to a guy who doesn't even need an alarm clock to wake up sharply at 0600 in four weeks. Works GREAT!


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931122 - 08/04/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm...yet again, discipline is a factor.  My work schedule varies dramatically, so to make this work I'd have to wake up at 6 am everyday.  Ouch. 

Except on my days off.    :smile:

Nah, seriously I've been wanting to try a consistant wake up time for awhile now.  I think it would do some good.  :thumbup:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
    #5931127 - 08/04/06 11:12 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Constant wake up time combined with a good workout in the morning, FIRST THING, will give you more energy than you thought possible. Guaranteed.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931131 - 08/04/06 11:13 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I will give it a try for the next week of work and report back.  :wink:  :cool:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931139 - 08/04/06 11:16 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

At first I was going to scoff at this post like I do to most of the universal cure type jargon.

However, this is very valid. Especially since my sleeping pattern is disjointed.  I get 3 hours sometime..sometimes 7...sometimes 2 hrs.

I think these suggestions may help considerably but I doubt alleviate certain personality/mood "abnormaliities". 

They are a tad deeper, yet any help is good :smile:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5931146 - 08/04/06 11:18 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Sleep is so critical to feeling good and being healthy. When you lift weights, you HAVE to rest. Going to the gym only breaks your muscles down, rest, stretching and protein build them back up. If you aren't getting good rest, your body isn't rebuilding itself. Too much rest and your body gets too lazy. 6-8 hours, hell, thats midnight till 6am sleeping, thats not bad really.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5931160 - 08/04/06 11:21 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Afro - Yea, definatly, some people probably do need serious medical help.  However, those people probably couldn't make it through one week of the program I talked about .  If you can do that, you probably are self-curable. :smile:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Afroshroomerican]
    #5931194 - 08/04/06 11:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

My sleep is complicated.
At the moment i smoke weed to help me sleep, but even with that i find it impossible to go to bed early.
Even if i do get into bed i'll just lie there awake until my normal sleeping time, which at the moment is about 6 in the morning.
Over weeks and months it gets progresively later, so it's like a couple of months ago i was falling asleep at 4-5'ish.

If i stop smoking dope ( ive done this twice for 6 months at a time ) my sleep goes totally out of sync.
I only ever need 8 hours sleep, but when i stop smoking i find i'm naturally awake for 18-20 hours a day.
So my bed time keeps doing circles, one week i'm getting up first thing in the morning, after another week or two i'm getting up at like 10 O'clock at night.

This makes holding a job down almost impossible, every job i have i get run down to the point that i can't function anymore.

Ive been a bad sleeper since i was born.
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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931200 - 08/04/06 11:34 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've noticed when I do get proper sleep, no drugs and exercise my mind goes into a hyper-active mania where I feel like I am literally the most powerful being in the world.  :smile:

Don't get me wrong...I enjoy this.  :grin: It makes me feel like creating chaos...oh the power! 

If I do this routine, by the end of the week I may request my name be changed to "Super-human-goddess-psychic-lady-of-magnificence, an icon-of-wonder." hehe.  :crazy2:

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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
    #5931203 - 08/04/06 11:35 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

LoL... well, feeling GREAT just simply feels GREAT! If I sleep in some days, which I do occasionally, I always feel run down that day. I feel better now getting in a heavy workout per day and working a full time job than I did when I worked a full time job and slept frequently.

Are you near a place where you can take yoga?


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5931208 - 08/04/06 11:36 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Mikey - I've been there before too. After a while, smoking pot doesn't give you that nice sleepy buzz, it makes you wired, somewhat paranoid, and hard to get to sleep. Like I said, one week, no drugs, waking up at the same time every morning, then exercizing, eating right and going to bed when your body tells you to. I promise you'll feel much better.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931212 - 08/04/06 11:39 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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LoL... well, feeling GREAT just simply feels GREAT!  If I sleep in some days, which I do occasionally, I always feel run down that day.  I feel better now getting in a heavy workout per day and working a full time job than I did when I worked a full time job and slept frequently.

Are you near a place where you can take yoga?




Yes actually...there's yoga all over the place down here.  I've been meaning to start a yoga class for months now.  Have you been sent from above to give me the final go-ahead push?  :blush:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
    #5931232 - 08/04/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

haha yes :smile:

It's REALLY worth it.  Just the stretches and such, learning how to breathe (another GIGANTIC health benefit), everything about it is just awesome!

Let me know if you start up and how you feel


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: MOTH]
    #5931249 - 08/04/06 11:55 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I wish it was that easy.
If i go to bed at 12am, and wake up at 8, the next night i won't be able to sleep till 1am. Eventually if i try getting up at the same time i'll be on two hours sleep a night right through to the point where i won't sleep at all for one day, then that night i'd start the whole thing again from the begining.

I also have this psychological thing where it doesn't matter how tired i am, once it reaches a certain time of night i won't be able to sleep till my usual time. Ive gone 3 days straight without any sleep, and still not been able to get any rest even though i'm absolutely knackered.

Ive had this most of my life.
It's just one of those things i guess, ive tried many times to try and fix it.
Your advice is good though, i'm not denying it  :smile:.

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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5931311 - 08/04/06 12:19 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

No problem. Yea, insomnia SUCKS. Some things that other people swore by didn't work for me. I guess it's just am atter of finding out what personally works for your specific "condition". Nothing sucks more than being unable to get to sleep when you've got to get up at 8 for a 12 hour day the next day, looking at the hours roll by on the alarm clock.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931346 - 08/04/06 12:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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What can you recommend for getting an adequate amount of sleep? I either don't sleep enough (wake up 2-3 hours before my alarm, without fail) or I just pass out after work and sleep for over half a day.




generally if you wake up before the alarm, it means you have gotten enough sleep. it depends though. you could be waking up too much and not being restful.

but i've heard that to tell if you are being sleep deprived, do you need the alarm to wake you up? if you are waking up before the alarm, it means you're getting enough sleep.

the trick is to jump out of bed and get up for the day instead of lying around sleeping in til the alarm goes off.

me i've been getting 12 hours of sleep almost all this week since i haven't had to work. i don't like that it puts me up at about 11 or 12 in the day/afternoon but it works alright.
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I used to have HORRIBLE insomnia, I could stay up three days, I couldn't sleep when I wanted to, it really sucked. Then I read an article about it and how a guy "solved" his. Wake up at the same time in the morning. don't worry about when you go to bed. If you end up getting two hours of sleep one night, your body will be that much more tired the next time. Every single day of the week, try to wake up at the exact same time. Your body will learn that and self-adjust. I went from a horrible insomniac to a guy who doesn't even need an alarm clock to wake up sharply at 0600 in four weeks. Works GREAT!



this is very true, and I find it a better solution than going to bed earlier.

i.e. gotta start getting up early for school? well just get up early for school, doesn't really matter when you go to bed too much but if you are used to going to bed at midnight, then it's not fair to go to bed at 10 and expect to be falling asleep.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: leery11]
    #5931371 - 08/04/06 12:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yea, waking up before the alarm is an excellent method of determining how well rested you are. And like ya said, get OUT OF BED at your appointed time. I usually wake up around 15 minutes 'early', so I always stretch out in bed, do some deep breathing, get my oxygen levels up high in my blood. Then I wake up, drink some ice cold water, take my multivitamin and do some calestinics to wake up. After that , I stretch out. Then I go to the gym, or whatever I'm doing.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: leery11]
    #5931402 - 08/04/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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What can you recommend for getting an adequate amount of sleep? I either don't sleep enough (wake up 2-3 hours before my alarm, without fail) or I just pass out after work and sleep for over half a day.




generally if you wake up before the alarm, it means you have gotten enough sleep. it depends though. you could be waking up too much and not being restful.




I think it's because of nerves. I am an incredibly light sleeper. I wake up in the middle of the night, think: "Oh, shit, how much time do I have before work?" and then even if I do breathing exercises and try to relax, I toss and turn until it eventually goes off (usually 2-3 hours later).


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5931465 - 08/04/06 01:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

might I also suggest that many people can benefit from mental excercise as well?

spend your morning reading or studying something that interests you, and your whole day will be better off for it.

I've found that when I allow my mind to stagnate, depression soon follows.

remember that you don't have to be in school to excercise your mind- the public library is well-stocked, and just around the corner!


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    #5932073 - 08/04/06 04:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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might I also suggest that many people can benefit from mental excercise as well?

spend your morning reading or studying something that interests you, and your whole day will be better off for it. 

I've found that when I allow my mind to stagnate, depression soon follows. 

remember that you don't have to be in school to excercise your mind- the public library is well-stocked, and just around the corner!



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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Silversoul]
    #5932130 - 08/04/06 04:58 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Reading, other problem solving skills. I work through math problems during the day to pass time and to keep my skills sharp. I can do math in my head very quickly.

of course, working out your body helps your mind work better


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Mike_yy]
    #5932168 - 08/04/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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You can't solve a problem by reversing the symptoms, when the symptoms are caused by something else.
That something else usually being a messed up brain.





I agree with this guy, though exercise is important, along with a good diet and sleep, many times people have mental disorders which are not from a lack of sleep, exercise or nutrition. Exercise might eventually ease the pain or whatever, but the initial problem still remains unsolved. This is avoidance.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: eligal]
    #5932176 - 08/04/06 05:14 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe 2% of the time people have some serious, "real" problem.  MAYBE.  Most of the "illnesses" diagnosed today are bullshit, in my opinion.  I've never seen someone who was depressed out working out in the gym.  Never seen an insomniac who REALLY wanted to regulate their sleep do the things that I've done, or run a few miles before they go to bed.  A lot of times, people just convince themselves that they are TOO fat, or TOO old, or TOO whatever to exercize, thats complete bullshit.  I think that exercise retrains the mind to associate pleasure (endorphins) with working out, and I think that the more you work out the happier you are.  Again, some people do have some fucked up mental problems, thats beyond my scope to deal with :smile:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5932193 - 08/04/06 05:23 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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A lot of times, people just convince themselves that they are TOO fat, or TOO old, or TOO whatever to exercize





Agreed, but the people who have mental problems arent avoiding the gym because they feel too old or fat or what ever. They are too "what ever they are" to be bothered to go to the gym.


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I think that exercise retrains the mind to associate pleasure (endorphins) with working out, and I think that the more you work out the happier you are.  Again, some people do have some fucked up mental problems, thats beyond my scope to deal with :smile:




Again, agreed that exercise releases endos and make people happy and get gym addicted. Im one of them. But some of the problems mentioned in this forum are alot deeper than a lack of exercise.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: eligal]
    #5932261 - 08/04/06 05:57 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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Agreed, but the people who have mental problems arent avoiding the gym because they feel too old or fat or what ever. They are too "what ever they are" to be bothered to go to the gym.




I've said that I do feel that SOME people, a very very small percentage of the "mentally ill" do have some sort of real, organic disease. The rest of them are probably, like all of us, just filled with negative self-talk.

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Again, agreed that exercise releases endos and make people happy and get gym addicted. Im one of them. But some of the problems mentioned in this forum are alot deeper than a lack of exercise.



I'd say that I think a VERy small percentage of people who have "depression" or whatever would be without benefit from exercize. Also, if those people who are suicidal or whatever, had tried exercizing when their depression was mild, who knows how much it would have helped?


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5932504 - 08/04/06 07:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hanging onto every word, mang :bigblunt:

It's so true. Sleep, excersize and proper diet is key. When one slips, the others are usually quick to follow and it will FUCK up your motivation and mind.

I just hit a slump, lots of nausea and anxiety for the past couple of days after having weeks of success in life, the gym and mind. Then I dropped my guard and got slammed. Skipping the gym today, getting my diet on track and planning on sleeping hard.


You would be absolutely AMAZED at how shitty you can feel one minute, go for a walk and give yourself just TEN minutes to just STFU and enjoy the sights, and you'll will feel wonderful. I did this just recently and I was having epiphanies left and right. It felt like a psychelic revolution. Spent some well needed time resting and meditating for the next few days and it really got things back on track.

My shit's been veered off course and it feels really nasty. I know that I could feel a hell of a lot better, so why waste my time wallowing and being a depressed bitch? Ain't no reason. We all spend way too much time letting ourselves being miserable. But once you get past these familiar traits, it's easy to shake all the other bad habits. Great advice, xDYSx. Have a good weekend, nuckas :cheers:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: browndustin]
    #5932643 - 08/04/06 08:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hell yea man, I pounded my back and bicep today, freakin exhausted 'em.  Gonna smoke my last joint and pass out :smile:


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    #5932649 - 08/04/06 08:36 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i ride my bike to the nines, dead tired at the end of day. then i rad the fridge and hit the hay


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5932653 - 08/04/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hey I can see your points but I think your making a to large of a generalization of what it is to be down.............

They are many many reasons to be down....and many of them have nothing to do with the things you said.

After you have been an Adult for 10-15 years you'll see my point.

Good thread with good posts though :thumbup:


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    #5932853 - 08/04/06 09:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know what to think about melatonin. There were times when it helped me sleep and other times when it seemed to be the reason that I'd wake up sweating my ass off in the middle of the night.


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    #5934487 - 08/05/06 12:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

A lot of things are easier said than done eh

It's all a matter of just doing it. If you don't get out and take care of business, it's not going to take care of itself.

Yesterday I was too wrecked to go to the gym from not sleeping, but I hooked up with two childhood buddies and just walked for hours. Parked our asses at the lake, smoked a joint and a cigar or two and talked about the most subjects you can condense in about a 6 hour time span. Recharged my mental and spiritual batteries to the brim. I'm beaming with positivity today  :shineon:  :shineon:  :shineon:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: browndustin]
    #5936285 - 08/06/06 06:31 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well i think that this is an interesting thread.
I dont suffer depression - although I have friends that have in the past. ALl sorts of medications have in almost all casese actually increased the problem, or caused other problems as well. Im not saying not to take meds, but just my observation.
Recent studies suggested that a diet high in Omega 3 had a very positive effect on depressed people and children suffering from attention deficit disorders,
That being said, i doubt that exercise, diet and a formulated and strict sleep cycle would result in a cure for someone suffering a mental disorder - it wouldnt have a hope of fixing a personality disorder, and some of the threads in this forum suggest that as a possible diagnosis.
It would certainly help to manage symptoms but not necessarily cure anything.
I have a condition called dysautonomia - basically the result of a gene mutation that makes my autonomic nervous system over-reactive to standing, etc.
Without bragging, i have a pretty healthy diet - nearly entirely fish and vegetables, I am quite fit (in the last year i have been playing sports and exercising for an hour or more daily), and I get regular sleep most nights (although sleep and dysautonomia can be contradictory at times) and all these things MINIMISE the symptoms of my condition - they do not cure its cause. If i drink ten galons of coffee im still going to get dizzy when i stand or fainting when i stand for 10 minutes, etc.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #5937599 - 08/06/06 04:32 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Nearly everyone who exhibits depression and anxiety also have a BIG lack of motivation... it's reflected in their diet and activity levels, and when you take control of your life starting with the small things, surprise, surprise, everything else starts coming together as well.

Your mind is something very important and something you should cherish. You'd going to be with yourself until you die, so why not take care of it? Some people use drugs to run away, but that doesn't make sense. IMO, get comfortable in your skin, take care of your body and mind. Your body is a temple, a vessel and if you treat it like shit then it's not going to be balanced.

I have more faith that VERY simply taking charge of your life IS more than drugs will ever do. I know this first hand, I've seen family members go through the same things and many friends as well. I tried to help my dad but he's still self medicating himself with opiates and I fear that he may be lost, I'm actually surprised that he's still alive. I think that it really IS just as simple as getting your shit together. In very rare circumstances are people absolutely hopefully without drugs. We have too many labels and drugs for our problems. People need to take charge and take drugs only as a last resort (combined with some serious therapy and life changes).


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: browndustin]
    #5937759 - 08/06/06 05:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yup, I think that, as the post says, 98% of "mental problems" can be cured by getting sleep, exercize and a proper diet.


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5937982 - 08/06/06 06:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

*nods*

People are hypochondriacts in western society. Everything is an illness. If you're hungry, you have an illness, if you had a hard time taking a shit, you have an illness. And for every illness, there's a million drugs you can take for it. And while I won't particularly argue that they don't "remedy" the situation successfully, they really don't fix the root cause of the problem.

Not medically or scientifically speaking right now, people need to seriously relax. That's all it is, really. They just need to chill the hell out and take one thing at a time. Take control. It's such a simple concept but people don't want to hear it, they want a solution that's just as "complicated" as the problems they think they have.

This was a good weekend for me and if I were to write up a review about what happened and what I did, it would be a text book example of how *insert everything xDYSx said* really helps you to level the mental playing field. And now that I'm grounded, I'll do what I can (or cut what I do too much of) to just keep things relatively balanced. :shineon:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: browndustin]
    #5938305 - 08/06/06 08:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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*nods*

People are hypochondriacts in western society. Everything is an illness. If you're hungry, you have an illness, if you had a hard time taking a shit, you have an illness. And for every illness, there's a million drugs you can take for it.





This is very true, though i don't find it hard to believe because of all the focus on health issues these days that gives us a distorted view of how things 'really' are.

I am myself convinced that i'll die sometime in my 30's, because it tells me i'm going to die on every packet of cigs i buy.
All the over dramatized medical programs, and those reality hospital programs we get piped through our TV's don't help either..

If it's not those i'm constantly being told i'm going to die horribly by some charity advertisement,, so i'd better give them my money.
And the news is always showing some kind of health scare.

Takes the piss and we don't need it really  :smile:
I think just that in itself is depressing.

And most of that's all about money, and entertainment ( if i can call it that ).
I think the tobacco companys are just covering their arses, but i do enjoy being told i'm going to die everyday. Fills me with hopes of a bright and prosperous future.  :rolleyes:


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Re: The Cure-All for 98% of these posts [Re: xDuckYouSuckerx]
    #5945458 - 08/08/06 07:52 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Hey I just want to say THANK YOU for this thread.

I was a big yoga/organic vegan/cardio/weight training head and woke up at 7:00am every morning and then I broke up with my girl a little over a month ago and I have just delved into smoking way too much kush and sleeping til noon territory plus junk food and no exercise lately. (Now talk about a run-on sentence!)

This definitely put things in perspective for me.


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