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LSD caused death
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Hello to everyone .. I Live in langley B,C. and jus the other day i heard threw my sister that one of her friends died while tripping on acid. Surely enough i saw the article in the newspaper the other day. The story read that the guy 20 years old had seen his brother hang himself earlier in life. The guy had  been very depressed for several years and had jus been starting to be okay. AParently witnesses say he started freeking out about his brother while tripping out on acid and something happened in that trip for him to commit suiced. I hope too all people that want to try  acid!!!!!! make sure ur emotionally prepared and stable to handle an acid trip. No 1 likes to hear about this kinda stuff.. Always ahve a sober person with you ! safe trippin peace :peace:

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: ctaf420]
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"LSD caused death" is a pretty strong statement. It's not like it was a toxic reaction he had. LSD was a CONTRIBUTING FACTOR in this guy's death, and clearly it was his underlying psychological problems leading to him hanging himself that were really the root causes.


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Re: LSD caused death [Re: ctaf420]
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ctaf420 said:
AParently witnesses say he started freeking out about his brother while tripping out on acid and something happened in that trip for him to commit suiced.


I hate to be critical when someone has died, especially in such an unfortunate way...but...

What kind of "witnesses" didn't try to prevent him from committing suicide?

If he did something they couldn't have prevented (like jumping off a building) how could they report that he was "freaking out" beforehand? What kind of tripping buddies allow this sort of thing to happen?

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: DadeMurphy]
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DadeMurphy said:
"LSD caused death" is a pretty strong statement. It's not like it was a toxic reaction he had. LSD was a CONTRIBUTING FACTOR in this guy's death, and clearly it was his underlying psychological problems leading to him hanging himself that were really the root causes.


well, one could say that it would not have happened if he had not used LSD... there were underlying psychological problems, obviously, so he should not have been tripping, but if he did not ingest the LSD he would probably still be alive

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: DadeMurphy]
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Actually I know someone that tripped once and they're heart stopped. He is lucky it started back up after medical attention. He has to take medication now since it happened.
Some people have chemical imbalances and shouldn't take acid. The first time you do it is the biggest risk. I would suggest if you do have chemical imbalance, do not try acid. It isn't worth risking your sanity or really harming yourself over, or death.

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: dubbyah]
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Well you could say that but it still does not imply causality. There are an infinite number of "IF'S" that can be applied to any situation...IF I the rope hadn't been strong enough to hold him, IF he was incapacitated by thorazine etc., but that is speculation - not reasoning.

My point is that every once in a while some headline, or post or rumor or whatever shows up - "LSD caused death" - and this is always the way they turn out (except for ONE known case of lethal overdose), the statement is misleading and wrong. In reality, some idiosyncracy in this person's psychology was exacerbated by LSD, leading to him MAKING THE CHOICE to commit suicide.

EDIT: I suppose it's still a tragedy and my condolences to the OP. It's really too bad he had to suffer whatever he went through, and all of the people around him now must cope with the loss.


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Re: LSD caused death [Re: DadeMurphy]
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i reckon that dudes heart stopped from anxiety or something.

but wasnt LSD meant to be a cordio constricter or something like that originally?

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: indica]
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im sure there are a few people that decided NOT to commit suicide after using LSD as well.  so in that respect, its a life-saving drug  :smile:

p.s. dont teenagers off themselves after taking drugs for ADHD and shit?


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Re: LSD caused death [Re: dubbyah]
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u can't say that...u have no way of knowing if he would have done it anyways...and it is a pretty bold and ultimately misleading statement...lsd did not cause his death

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: ctaf420]
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I have no problem whatsoever with assuming that LSD pushed this poor kid over the edge, but then again I'm not very prone to adhere to drug taboos.

LSD provides a stressful experience of heightened and distorted emotionality. This in an already unstable person can well be the straw that broke the camel's back.

Psychedelics use is a dangerous acxtivity, and many people are better off if they never, not once take part in it.

As the story is presented here, which is plausible, the poor kid was a cocked and loaded gun, and LSD pulled the trigger.
Very sad, but probably true.


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Re: LSD caused death [Re: Asante]
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I agree...I don't think its for everyone and I think it definitely potientiated his depression and probably contributed to his death...but it didn't cause it...in the end he pulled the trigger(or whatever method he used)

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: Iamthewalrus]
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Nobody said LSD wasn't an extremely powerful drug. In the words of Uncle Ben: "With great power comes great responsibility."

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: Newbie]
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What's sad is that, were it not for government demonization of LSD, the drug could probably have been used to his therapeutic benefit to help him deal with the loss of his brother. From the sound of it, he buried his feelings about his brother's suicide in his unconscious, and the LSD brought them to the foreground, as it tends to do. I weep for the loss of LSD, psilocybin, and mescaline as tools for psychology and the expansion of human consciousness; I'm tired of hearing stories like this published about psychedelics.


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Re: LSD caused death [Re: Lion]
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ya your absolutely right...its very possible in a theraputic setting lsd could have been used to treat this problem...but we will never know

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: Iamthewalrus]
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if he did not take LSD he would not have died
how could u say that it didnt cause his death ?
although i know what point ur taking is that the LSD itself did not make him die .. it was the effects of LSD

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: ctaf420]
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because u have no way of knowing what he would have done

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: Iamthewalrus]
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yeah you do, he'd be alive for at least a while longer....

i would say LSD did cause it, the problem is if you put "LSD causes death" in a news headline, it is very misleading, as it makes people think LSD is poisonous or very very very dangerous.

it would be more like "troubled man loses it on LSD and takes life" and that would be better and less propogandic.


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Re: LSD caused death [Re: leery11]
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Just recently I was tripping with some friends at a park.. and my one young friend thought he could cross lakeshore drive (a highway running through the downtown of Chicago)... and our whole group spent about 10 minutes convincing him it was a bad idea.

Personally, I think if someone is threatening to do something stupid or suicidal, it is the responsibility of his/her friends (and, well, anyone in particular) to try and coax them out of it. Then again... we are blessed/cursed with free will.

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: Ashland]
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k about the headline i understand but i was baked when i did this and i didnt think the whole forum wud be about if lsd caused his death or not it was to let every1 know about the dangers of trippin while being depressed or emotionally unstable. And yes his friends did try to help him who wouldnt... in the article it dusnt exactly say how he died but if more comes up il lad it to the thread.. im trying to find the article too so keep posted

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Re: LSD caused death [Re: ctaf420]
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That is quite sad and i think the person needed to be smarter and prepare better.

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