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OfflineSlapnutz
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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
    #308030 - 05/03/01 06:43 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

how much you weigh? what about tolerance? were they strong? just getting the facts

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
    #308093 - 05/03/01 08:00 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

you're an idiot: acid will not make you permanently insane just due to high dose.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
    #308478 - 05/03/01 09:05 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

"you're an idiot: acid will not make you permanently insane just due to high dose."

He was in the hospitol for 9 months,that doesnt mean he went
PERMANENTLY insane.








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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
    #308707 - 05/04/01 02:14 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

goblin i have a hard time believing u spend 250 dollars per trip for a dose that almost nobody has ever done and would most likely fuck you up even when the trip is fully over

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Swank]
    #308778 - 05/04/01 03:58 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I'm sorry dude, but i have experienced total ego death on shrooms. Enlightenment grade 1. Fractionalisation of external forms followed by ego death and unification with the absolute perspective. The 'flashbacks' lasted for weeks and were triggered by my reading of relevant literature (which i only read after my experience) such as leary's Psychedelic Guide and also just entertaining my newly 'rediscovered thought patterns'. These flash backs were intense. Total reoccurance of the primary experience. Loss of visual connection with everyday reality, supreme insight. and this was weeks after my initial experience, during which i only did 50 shrooms. Level 5 is real and its not something you shake off the next day. The changes to my mental outlook have been permenent and certainly positive.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
    #309114 - 05/04/01 02:56 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

yeah and i heard about a dude who ate 20 hits and peeled his skin cause he thought he was an orange and i heard about some other kids who took 34 hits and stared at the sun til they went blind and i have one friend of a friend who took 1 hit and went permanently insane for the rest of his blubbering incontinent life.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
    #309349 - 05/04/01 10:16 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Intox:

you need to learn a little more about LSD before you make those statements.

LSD, on it's own, will NEVER make you go "insane" unless you have a predisposition to psychotic behavior. That means that you might have a case of schitzophrenia but not know it because it hasn't come to the surface. But an experience on LSD could bring it up. Also, whether or not you go insane has nothing (or at least very little) to do with HOW MUCH you take. It either happens, or doesn't. Could happen off 1 hit, could happen off 20 hits.

And as for killing yourself by taking too mush acid...the LD50 (the dosage at which 50% of test subjects die) for monkeys (close enough to humans to make a guess) is 5mg/kg. That means if you weigh 60kg you would have to take 300mg of LSD to probably kill yourself. That's quite a lot, i think.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: trendal]
    #309413 - 05/04/01 11:47 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

"you need to learn a little more about LSD before you make those statements."

Whoa,I didnt say anything about dieing from taking to many hits.It would take thousands of hits to kill a human.
And Im not sure if all of those 'statements' you were refering to even came from me.All I did was state a fact,some guy went to the hospitol for nine months because of 25 hits,he didnt go permanatly insane,and he could of been prone to going insane which was only brought on by the acid for all I know.

BTW,assuming that 20 'good quality' hits is about 2000 ug,then that is enough to kill a small animal(mouse/rat),if that was one of the things I said that you were refering to.





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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
    #309434 - 05/05/01 12:15 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

sorry man, i had misread what you said :-)

i found this on Erowid. should clear up any confusion about lsd overdose.

Psychedelics Encyclopedia
Peter Stafford
p.70
"For those concerned about immediate medical hazards in ingesting LSD...Abram Hoffer has estimated, on the basis of animal studies, that the half-lethal human dose--meaning half would die--would be about 14,000 [ug]. But one person who took 40,000 ug survived. In the only case of death reportedly caused by overdose (Journal of the Kentucky Medical Association), the quantity of LSD in the blood indicated that 320,000 ug had been injected intravenously."

and as to the "how many hits do i take to hit level 5" question... i've never done acid (going to soon, hopefully) but i've done shrooms enough times to realize that there are times when it has very little to do with just how much you take. i've taken 3g of a batch of shrooms and tripped nicely, then a few weeks later taken a little under 2g of the same batch and tripped hard core.

if i were you, i'd start out small and just keep working your way up, trip after trip, to the level you want to hit. may take a few months, but that way you can be sure you wont go too far.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: trendal]
    #309680 - 05/05/01 07:39 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Trendal , did the report of the LSD death state what physically caused the person to die? This is so overwhelming, to imagine tripping into into death. I would probobly be saying I'm breathing ok it's just the trip ect. ect. And who would volunteer to find the lethal point of anything?? Anyway, if you can find out what caused him to die it would be appreciated.....Later

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
    #309748 - 05/05/01 11:18 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

i always heard that one developed a tollerance for lsd, and that after doing it for a while you had to up the dose (one of my closest friends was buddies with a guy that made the shit, so almost every day after school he would get out and trip balls....he said that after a while he wouldn't feel anything even after 4 or 5 hits). is this true? and if that's the case, wouldn't the amount required to reach "level 5" be relative to how often you've done it?

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Slak Fox]
    #309749 - 05/05/01 11:20 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

or maybe your Ego just thinks you hit level 5...



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Father_Mushroom]
    #309750 - 05/05/01 11:25 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

> one of my closest friends was buddies with a guy that made the shit

Boy I'd like to see a laboratory for clandestine LSD manufacture. What model gas chromatographer did he use? or did he use a mass spectrometer? Did the precursors cost him much money?

or did he make it in the bath tub with Foster's beer?



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Kid]
    #309826 - 05/05/01 04:56 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

..I often think that you can't mean the same as me when you talk about hits...

European blotters must be stronger...most people eat a half one maybe two..real hardcore freaks (I would describe them as junkies..they eat 10 or 20 hits of xtc..do mad amounts of coke ect...) eat a few maybe..but that was it..
we have blotters around that are labeled as 1000s or 1400s..and one of them is enough to drive you mad forever...

but what do I know my LSD days are long ago...
I used to get really high on a half,sometimes1,5 blotters..

but thats in europe, maybe that because you yankees have longer dicks and the bigger cattle too ;)

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
    #309867 - 05/05/01 07:10 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I haven't seen the actual report, just a reference to it on Erowid. The report is in the Journal of the Kentucky Medical Association, if you want to go find that and take a look it should help.

In animal studies, the usual cause of death from an LSD overdose is resiratory failor. Rabbits get a severe case of hypertension just before they stop breathing, too. I'm assuming it would be somewhat the same in humans.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: trendal]
    #310302 - 05/06/01 11:28 AM (21 years, 4 months ago)

Tendal, you haven't seen the actual repot? How does one quote something without actual fact? I was all intrigued by your post, you say go find some report you haven't even read? Please don't get me exited with B.S.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
    #310434 - 05/06/01 06:50 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

i was qoting Erowid. Go check it out, www.erowid.org you can find the information I quoted in the LSD section under Dose.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Slapnutz]
    #311365 - 05/07/01 10:40 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

I weigh around 170 lbs. The acid was pretty good,three days earlier I only took one and felt it strong.I'm used to doing alot though.I've taken 25 liquid drops before,20 purple gels,32 blotters,you name it .I have taken some large doses of acid, not to mention a half ounce of shrooms.I consider these drugs safe though.I sure as hell don't want to be in the hospitol for 9 months.That time I took 40 though after about 20 minutes after taking it I asked my friend if he thought we should go to the hospitol and we looked at each other,I seen his face bouncing all over the sky and those jungle type designs coming up from the grass all over me, and we just laughed like,naw we be alright in about 20 hours and if not I think I could have delt with it for about 9 months.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: HB]
    #311370 - 05/07/01 10:47 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

250 bucks ,my god, well I only paid 80 bucks a vial so 40 drops didn't cost me anything,I even still made around 600 bucks off the whole deal.Went back for more that weekend and told these rainbow kids all bout it.I usually get about ten vials when those guys are in town.Haven't seen them in a while though,sure wish they'd knock on my door soon.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
    #311382 - 05/07/01 11:03 PM (21 years, 4 months ago)

From what I've heard ,if you actually take enough to kill yourself which is anywhere from 150 to 1000 hits roughly, you'll go into hypothermia and die from respiratory failure.I've also heard that the brain is going so much you can actually feel this happen before your brain dies.These are not documented but rumors from dead heads and other sorts of acid heads I know.



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