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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
    #305984 -

Because no one has EVER lost their ego on shrooms...




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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
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ive never experienced TOTAL ego death but i came fairly close--about 9 hits (!!!) of mediocre quality 'cid...i dont believe in total loss of ego that'd be a shitload of shrooms, but im not doubting its happened to people. i wouldnt want to do that anyways tho, i tend to enjoy the trip better and smaller doses (like 4 or 5 hits) is more than enough for me, i really dont believe that acid trips are meant to be an endurance constest, rather a journy (hence the word trip)...but i dunno just take a lot and hope for the best and try not to think about things just let it all go

We're all mad here...


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: HB]
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"try 20 hits of "good quality acid"

Thats enough acid to kill a small animal! I want to get as smashed as I can without taking a hospitol visit or getting put into a straight jacket,would that be about 6 hits,10 hits?


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
    #306131 -

you don't take phycotropics to get smashed.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: hunterthompson]
    #306142 -

Thats the word I felt like using.You know what I meant by it.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
    #306146 -

if you are using the word smashed to describe these kinds of drugs don't expect to be able to handle 20 hits. You get smashed off a bottle of vodka and are the same in the morning beside a few things a-stray but you get smashed off 20 hits you will never be the same.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
    #306147 -

Forget about the level sytem with shrooms.Lets say theres a level system with acid that is 1-5,and any of these levels can be reached with a resonable ammount of acid.
How many hits would it take to get to level 4 or 5? 5,10,15 hits?


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
    #306193 -

I've had more than 10 hits on seperate occasions and never felt what I would call a level 5 trip. I've reached states on mushrooms that are absolute....

Going crazy will drive you mad, but once you get there the rest is easy.....


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Swank]
    #306333 -

<sigh> Having a self-contradictory, or severly fragmented ego is one thing but Ego loss means that you have no sense of self. That means that the concept "I" does not even exist. So what happens when you have no concept of "I", you simply experience. You don't experience dying (as that involves "I am dying"), you just become a bundle of sensory perceptions that experiences data.

I'm not saying that it has never happened, but when you read people's supposed EGO LOSS trips, they still incorportate "I" into them, which involves sense of self, which is ego.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
    #306337 -

> Thats enough acid to kill a small animal!

If you count an ant as an animal, then I guess you're right.

Look, I've done upto 7 hits at once. I could've gone way beyond that. Even the time I had a mindblower on 4 awesome hits, I coulda taken quite a few more.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
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If you haven't ever reached a true level 5 I feel you would be quite intrigued to analyze it later. Yes you do loose the ego, complete loss just space with strangely few hallucinations once your there. Almost the "center of the tornado" space. There is no fear, no joy not much at all . Going into nothing is very intense almost like being stretched though wormholes and speeding on a rollorcoaster to nothing and coming back also but the strange calm when egoloss occurs is not easy to explain it's really imposible to exlplain and to the people who have experienced it we can tell you believe it or not it is for real.....

Going crazy will drive you mad, but once you get there the rest is easy.....


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss] * 1
    #306520 -

shulgin uses a 0-->4 + scale... and says that 0 to 3 can be often reached by adjusting the dosage, but a +4 just happens when it wants to...



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: gnrm23]
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^ how many hits do you think it would take to get to level 3 of that scale?


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
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i dunno, what does shulgin say in TIHKAL? i figure between 250 and 400 micrograms... how many "hits" that is i suppose depends on how many mikes on each dose...
and of course individual sensitivity to the "psychedelic" effects of lsd vary quite a bit from person to person...
possible dose/experience relationships
50-100 u --- esthetic exploration/party dose
150-250 u --- psychological/philosophical expereince
300-400 u --- encounter with deep self
>500 u --- immersion in the universal hum/voidness
>1000 u --- neurorecptor saturation/white light
YMMV !!!
for Ps cubensis, above figures from low of <1 gram to high of 10 grams dry weight (all figures very approximate, ok?)



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: gnrm23]
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^ thanx


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
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I've been there on DXM.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Kid]
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20 hits wouldnt kill anything, though it may fuck you up after, but w/out experience i wouldn't really know, but i dont plan on it...i like to have, to an extent, some element of control. to me its more fun that way--4-5 hits is perfect

We're all mad here...


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
    #306839 -





*cry*

i want my acid.

=(

oh toronto, why dont thee show me the way?

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: RuNE]
    #306857 -

yeah im from toronto too. i dont ever see acid here...

There are 3 types of people in this world: Those who can count, and those who can not.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
    #308010 -

"I took 40 liquid drops"

Holy shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Consider yourself lucky,some guy was in the mental ward of a hospitol for 9 months because he took 25 hits.
And I also heard of an 'experienced' acid user who went to the hospitol because of 12 hits.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
    #308030 -

how much you weigh? what about tolerance? were they strong? just getting the facts

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
    #308093 -

you're an idiot: acid will not make you permanently insane just due to high dose.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
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"you're an idiot: acid will not make you permanently insane just due to high dose."

He was in the hospitol for 9 months,that doesnt mean he went
PERMANENTLY insane.







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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5
    #308707 -

goblin i have a hard time believing u spend 250 dollars per trip for a dose that almost nobody has ever done and would most likely fuck you up even when the trip is fully over

We're all mad here...


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Swank]
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I'm sorry dude, but i have experienced total ego death on shrooms. Enlightenment grade 1. Fractionalisation of external forms followed by ego death and unification with the absolute perspective. The 'flashbacks' lasted for weeks and were triggered by my reading of relevant literature (which i only read after my experience) such as leary's Psychedelic Guide and also just entertaining my newly 'rediscovered thought patterns'. These flash backs were intense. Total reoccurance of the primary experience. Loss of visual connection with everyday reality, supreme insight. and this was weeks after my initial experience, during which i only did 50 shrooms. Level 5 is real and its not something you shake off the next day. The changes to my mental outlook have been permenent and certainly positive.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
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yeah and i heard about a dude who ate 20 hits and peeled his skin cause he thought he was an orange and i heard about some other kids who took 34 hits and stared at the sun til they went blind and i have one friend of a friend who took 1 hit and went permanently insane for the rest of his blubbering incontinent life.

dont believe everything you hear


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
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Intox:

you need to learn a little more about LSD before you make those statements.

LSD, on it's own, will NEVER make you go "insane" unless you have a predisposition to psychotic behavior. That means that you might have a case of schitzophrenia but not know it because it hasn't come to the surface. But an experience on LSD could bring it up. Also, whether or not you go insane has nothing (or at least very little) to do with HOW MUCH you take. It either happens, or doesn't. Could happen off 1 hit, could happen off 20 hits.

And as for killing yourself by taking too mush acid...the LD50 (the dosage at which 50% of test subjects die) for monkeys (close enough to humans to make a guess) is 5mg/kg. That means if you weigh 60kg you would have to take 300mg of LSD to probably kill yourself. That's quite a lot, i think.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: trendal]
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"you need to learn a little more about LSD before you make those statements."

Whoa,I didnt say anything about dieing from taking to many hits.It would take thousands of hits to kill a human.
And Im not sure if all of those 'statements' you were refering to even came from me.All I did was state a fact,some guy went to the hospitol for nine months because of 25 hits,he didnt go permanatly insane,and he could of been prone to going insane which was only brought on by the acid for all I know.

BTW,assuming that 20 'good quality' hits is about 2000 ug,then that is enough to kill a small animal(mouse/rat),if that was one of the things I said that you were refering to.




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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
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sorry man, i had misread what you said :-)

i found this on Erowid. should clear up any confusion about lsd overdose.

Psychedelics Encyclopedia
Peter Stafford
p.70
"For those concerned about immediate medical hazards in ingesting LSD...Abram Hoffer has estimated, on the basis of animal studies, that the half-lethal human dose--meaning half would die--would be about 14,000 [ug]. But one person who took 40,000 ug survived. In the only case of death reportedly caused by overdose (Journal of the Kentucky Medical Association), the quantity of LSD in the blood indicated that 320,000 ug had been injected intravenously."

and as to the "how many hits do i take to hit level 5" question... i've never done acid (going to soon, hopefully) but i've done shrooms enough times to realize that there are times when it has very little to do with just how much you take. i've taken 3g of a batch of shrooms and tripped nicely, then a few weeks later taken a little under 2g of the same batch and tripped hard core.

if i were you, i'd start out small and just keep working your way up, trip after trip, to the level you want to hit. may take a few months, but that way you can be sure you wont go too far.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: trendal]
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Trendal , did the report of the LSD death state what physically caused the person to die? This is so overwhelming, to imagine tripping into into death. I would probobly be saying I'm breathing ok it's just the trip ect. ect. And who would volunteer to find the lethal point of anything?? Anyway, if you can find out what caused him to die it would be appreciated.....Later

Going crazy will drive you mad, but once you get there the rest is easy.....


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
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i always heard that one developed a tollerance for lsd, and that after doing it for a while you had to up the dose (one of my closest friends was buddies with a guy that made the shit, so almost every day after school he would get out and trip balls....he said that after a while he wouldn't feel anything even after 4 or 5 hits). is this true? and if that's the case, wouldn't the amount required to reach "level 5" be relative to how often you've done it?

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Slak Fox]
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or maybe your Ego just thinks you hit level 5...


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Father_Mushroom]
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> one of my closest friends was buddies with a guy that made the shit

Boy I'd like to see a laboratory for clandestine LSD manufacture. What model gas chromatographer did he use? or did he use a mass spectrometer? Did the precursors cost him much money?

or did he make it in the bath tub with Foster's beer?


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Kid]
    #309826 -

..I often think that you can't mean the same as me when you talk about hits...

European blotters must be stronger...most people eat a half one maybe two..real hardcore freaks (I would describe them as junkies..they eat 10 or 20 hits of xtc..do mad amounts of coke ect...) eat a few maybe..but that was it..
we have blotters around that are labeled as 1000s or 1400s..and one of them is enough to drive you mad forever...

but what do I know my LSD days are long ago...
I used to get really high on a half,sometimes1,5 blotters..

but thats in europe, maybe that because you yankees have longer dicks and the bigger cattle too ;)

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
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I haven't seen the actual report, just a reference to it on Erowid. The report is in the Journal of the Kentucky Medical Association, if you want to go find that and take a look it should help.

In animal studies, the usual cause of death from an LSD overdose is resiratory failor. Rabbits get a severe case of hypertension just before they stop breathing, too. I'm assuming it would be somewhat the same in humans.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: trendal]
    #310302 -

Tendal, you haven't seen the actual repot? How does one quote something without actual fact? I was all intrigued by your post, you say go find some report you haven't even read? Please don't get me exited with B.S.

Going crazy will drive you mad, but once you get there the rest is easy.....


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
    #310434 -

i was qoting Erowid. Go check it out, www.erowid.org you can find the information I quoted in the LSD section under Dose.



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Slapnutz]
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I weigh around 170 lbs. The acid was pretty good,three days earlier I only took one and felt it strong.I'm used to doing alot though.I've taken 25 liquid drops before,20 purple gels,32 blotters,you name it .I have taken some large doses of acid, not to mention a half ounce of shrooms.I consider these drugs safe though.I sure as hell don't want to be in the hospitol for 9 months.That time I took 40 though after about 20 minutes after taking it I asked my friend if he thought we should go to the hospitol and we looked at each other,I seen his face bouncing all over the sky and those jungle type designs coming up from the grass all over me, and we just laughed like,naw we be alright in about 20 hours and if not I think I could have delt with it for about 9 months.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: HB]
    #311370 -

250 bucks ,my god, well I only paid 80 bucks a vial so 40 drops didn't cost me anything,I even still made around 600 bucks off the whole deal.Went back for more that weekend and told these rainbow kids all bout it.I usually get about ten vials when those guys are in town.Haven't seen them in a while though,sure wish they'd knock on my door soon.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
    #311382 -

From what I've heard ,if you actually take enough to kill yourself which is anywhere from 150 to 1000 hits roughly, you'll go into hypothermia and die from respiratory failure.I've also heard that the brain is going so much you can actually feel this happen before your brain dies.These are not documented but rumors from dead heads and other sorts of acid heads I know.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: ]
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YES! ahhh shit it pisses me off so much to pay "retail" (4-5 bucks) for a few hits of acid and feel next to nothing. Then other times I'll drop a dolla on a friggen sweet tart someone says they put cid on and trip balls. *sigh*

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: fuztar]
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Forgive me for asking, but why would anyone want to take 40 hits of acid? What does one accomplish from this action? I could see taking up to 10, but after that it's rather pointless.. is it not?

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Hydro]
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true, i would never trip on anything higher than 7 or 8 hits (at least for now) not as much because of safety and whatnot but because a 40 hit trip would cost roughly 200 bucks FOR ONE TRIP! now unless you make your own or have a free supplier...or are bill gates.....then id say 40 bucks for one trip is the limit.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Hydro]
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Hydro ,I guess it's one of those things people disagree on. I agree with you anything over 10 seems like a waste , but the mental fuk keeps increasin over 10. Sure strength makes a difference but unless you get some bunk doses, I've not noticed a better trip from 8, 10 or 15. My best trips have come from 4-5 gel tabs. I've never had a bad gel tab........

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
    #311880 -

agreed (opinion) 5 is my perfect dose

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
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ive never had access to any kind of acid except on PEZ...gel tabs from what ive hear are more powerful mostly than pez, probably cuz of the way in which its stored...

We're all mad here...


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: HB]
    #313204 -

well 40 bucks isn't even what I paid.Ten v's for 800,sold most of it at 3 a hit.I think I kept 2 v's and still made 500-600 bucks.Anyways we kinda accidentally took that much.I had one vial that was dilluted and one that wasn't.well you can figure what happened.I've taken 20-30 on purpose before though,it's just out of curiousity,see what you can take kinda.I've even betted w/ people to see who would take more.Acid is safe and I don't really care about much so I say fuck it.I'm not to worried about going overboard or ending up in a mental institute.It's just acid.I'm just a crazy kid that used to do anything.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: egolesss]
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I will definetly disagree with this.I take 20 and trip balls.I take 40 and i can tell you it was definetly twice as hard.I couldn't even focus for 4-5 hours.I mean I could not recognize the world.Grass was sky,sky was water,I didn't even know where I was for a little bit.I even felt drunk off of it,stumbling,mumbling,shit ,the more you take the more you get.I have taken 10 numerous times and can say for sure anything over 10 is not just pointless waste of LSD.As for getting anything out of it,no way was way to fucked up.I usually can learn on less than ten,but I usually keep to myself ,take it all in.I don't get along socially well,everything seems like a front to me anymore,which is prolly from the acid.But after 10-20 you lose thought patterns and revelations.That's why I took that much.It helped me get over that social anziety,I don't care what people say in the background anymore,I lost my mild parranoia.


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Tripping to death [Re: egolesss]
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egolesss, death due to to lsd is caused by respiratory failure. Basically where there's too much lsd (or other substance) in your blood and not enough oxygen.

Tripping into death - interesting thought though!



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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Swank]
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Swank said:
Because no one has EVER lost their ego on shrooms...
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I know people that have, and I don't know anyone that hasn't when they followed it by a hit of salvia. I was nearly non functioning for 2 hours after that

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Achilles89]
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Quote:
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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: krypto2000]
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I have done up to 12 hits or so, but having tripped two days before it probably evened out to a bit lower, maybe nine?

I have friends that have taken full dropper's in one dose, 20~ hits and have come out fine.

The quality of the acid has a lot to do with it, more than the quantity in some cases. I took two hits of extremely strong L and lost my mind for a while, probably the hardest I've ever tripped.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Swank]
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I am very sure that people have done it.  I personally never have done that under the influence of mushrooms, but im sure if you consume enough of any hallucinogen that it could happen.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: krypto2000]
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krypto2000 said:
Quote:
Last seen: 7 years, 7 months



:rofl2:


oops... my bad
I must have searched it, forgot, and thought I clicked it front page :frown:

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Intox]
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My cousins standard dose without tolerance became 20-30 hits. He has eaten 100 at a Dead show and come back fine.

I myself have eaten 1,000 mics - it was bliss.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Swank]
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Swank said:
Because no one has EVER lost their ego on shrooms...
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Well, I guess that maybe you haven't done enough shrooms yet.


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It doesn't matter whether you look out to the stars, or under a microscope to the tiniest of particles.
It doesn't even matter what kind of practice you perform to reach your goal.
Because if you keep looking, everything eventually leads to the same truth, like a fractal that contains itself in every direction you take it.
You will find yourself.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: lovuasca]
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Never done more than 4, and don't think I ever would. I would lose my shit if I dosed as high as some of you guys. Don't think the ol' serotonin receptors could handle it.

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Re: Post deleted by Anno [Re: Anno]
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try taking atleast 550ug lsd and smoke about 0.3g of weed then see how high you will fly xD!!

I did that and i happen to go into a breakthrough ( ego death ). It was hard to comprehend ( no joke man ), heavy breathing, was going to vomit but i handled it pretty well, close to fainting, kept my eyes closed since it was too much stuff to look at ( everything was melting together ), i even was "this" close to call an ambulance. but trust me, it was "THE" best experience i ever had ( and this is when i knew that this dose is my limit xD )

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: lovuasca]
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I have eaten a dose of one weighed ounce of psilocybe cubensis (57 whole dried mushrooms), and concluded that no transcendental experience is possible from the ingestion of that level of dosage. I am quite sure that I am capable of eating 4 or more times that dosage (one must put such a dose in a grinder to reduce it to convenient ingestibility)-- a quarter of a pound-- without ever experiencing the phenomenon commonly known as ego loss, and which I have known (through LSD) as the becoming-the-universe experience. It just doesn't happen. I am currently (and hereby) searching for serious researchers in ultra-high-dose phenomenological research in LSD.

I do not know whether or not such transcendence is possible through ingestion of peyote, mescaline sulphate, or any other psychedelic substance (though I have taken some very large doses of both).

Is anyone interested in knowing? Heck, there's probably a research grant available to a credentialed research or research team. I am offering myself as a subject and participant in such research. Please correspond if interested. I will send an email address to anyone who establishes any reasonable credentials in response to this post. Thank you.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: KeseysFriend]
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I have seen 3 hits of 130 microgarms put people almost at that point.

+5 is not exactly a fun time out.  It's supposed to tear you apart and often leaves you praying for it to end.

What are you a fucking yogi?  Think you can handle some acids?  Don't fuck around is what I am saying.  There are psychedlics that fit on a blotter that could destroy you way beyond acid.  For example.  DOC could scare the most avid tripper into oblivion on less-than a quarter inch of paper.  Acid is no less serious if you get silly about your doses.

Plus 4 basically means tripping your fucking brains out where you can't see.  They made an extra level so you know what it means to lose any concept of reality.

People never liked salvia for example.  A good few inhalations of 10-20x would have put you at a +5 for a short while.  People don't like that.  God help you if you understood what it even means and end up in that place for 8 hours.

Anyone can overdose if they want to.

Edited by fractalsybolism (10/08/16 05:57 PM)

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: fractalsybolism]
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The most I have taken is 2.5 hits.. I could not imagine what it would feel like to hit that level.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: ltdanglez]
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Took 2600ug (26 hits,) and ended up in the hospital for about two weeks until I remembered my name and who I was and how to speak English. Doses that high can literally make people think you're insane because for all intents and purposes while you're tripping that hard, you pretty much are. I couldn't drive a car for over a year afterwards because my visuals for so intense.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: WeAreMushroom]
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smoking spice amps up LSD 10-fold


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Post deleted by Anno [Re: UniversePotato]
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UniversePotato said:
try taking atleast 550ug lsd and smoke about 0.3g of weed then see how high you will fly xD!!

I did that and i happen to go into a breakthrough ( ego death ). It was hard to comprehend ( no joke man ), heavy breathing, was going to vomit but i handled it pretty well, close to fainting, kept my eyes closed since it was too much stuff to look at ( everything was melting together ), i even was "this" close to call an ambulance. but trust me, it was "THE" best experience i ever had ( and this is when i knew that this dose is my limit xD )



Very similar to what I experienced on 1.5mg accidentally dosed.  So I guess 15-20 tabs?  I have to say.. if I was any higher, didn't have my best friend as a sober babysitter, I would have probably gone out on the streets preaching about god.  My friend who dosed 2mg too on accident was ready to take his clothes off because he was Jim Morrison.  I handled it better then he did.  The entire come up I was dry heaving - couldn't vomit at all.  Just pure spasms, went away once the peak started.

Never would want to purposely dose that high.. I'm very grateful me and my buddy came down the next day and integrated the experience well.  This was very impure crystal too.

I find 200ug to be perfect to have a good trip, and 350ug if I want to hit the full jedi/3rd eye level.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Typerwritermonky]
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I've had pretty complete ego loss from acid before.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Rise against]
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Quote:
My friend who dosed 2mg too on accident was ready to take his clothes off because he was Jim Morrison.


:rofl:

This is exactly what it's like to be on 2mg+. I remember throwing my only pair of shoes in a lake because they reminded me of my father. Then I threw our picnic blanket in the lake. I remember the police looking confused at my bare feet and asking me, "Do you have any shoes?"

I started laughing hysterically and said no.


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Swank]
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Swank said:
Because no one has EVER lost their ego on shrooms...
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<br><br><br>



Son, only the acid knows that answer


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: Post deleted by Anno [Re: Typerwritermonky]
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Typerwritermonky said:
UniversePotato said:
try taking atleast 550ug lsd and smoke about 0.3g of weed then see how high you will fly xD!!

I did that and i happen to go into a breakthrough ( ego death ). It was hard to comprehend ( no joke man ), heavy breathing, was going to vomit but i handled it pretty well, close to fainting, kept my eyes closed since it was too much stuff to look at ( everything was melting together ), i even was "this" close to call an ambulance. but trust me, it was "THE" best experience i ever had ( and this is when i knew that this dose is my limit xD )



Very similar to what I experienced on 1.5mg accidentally dosed.  So I guess 15-20 tabs?  I have to say.. if I was any higher, didn't have my best friend as a sober babysitter, I would have probably gone out on the streets preaching about god.  My friend who dosed 2mg too on accident was ready to take his clothes off because he was Jim Morrison.  I handled it better then he did.  The entire come up I was dry heaving - couldn't vomit at all.  Just pure spasms, went away once the peak started.

Never would want to purposely dose that high.. I'm very grateful me and my buddy came down the next day and integrated the experience well.  This was very impure crystal too.

I find 200ug to be perfect to have a good trip, and 350ug if I want to hit the full jedi/3rd eye level.


What makes you say the crystal was impure? Did it look off color or what?

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: Kid]
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Kid said:
<sigh>  Having a self-contradictory, or severly fragmented ego is one thing but Ego loss means that you have no sense of self.  That means that the concept "I" does not even exist.  So what happens when you have no concept of "I", you simply experience.  You don't experience dying (as that involves "I am dying"), you just become a bundle of sensory perceptions that experiences data.
<br>
<br>I'm not saying that it has never happened, but when you read people's supposed EGO LOSS trips, they still incorportate "I" into them, which involves sense of self, which is ego.<br><br>



Yeah the only thing that ever gave me genuine ego loss was salvia! And it was horrible!


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"I'm every nightmare you ever had. I am your worst dreams come true. I am everything you ever were afraid of."

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: wolf8312]
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took me 2 hits of 100ug 1p-lsd which is slightly less potent than real LSD and 2 150ug of AL-LAD and i was most definitley in level 5, which will be an experience i will never forget.  And for people saying you often just wish for it to end at level 5, this is not true at all in y experience. At level 5 there is a lot of trouble distinguishing between what is good and what is bad.  You have no recollection of what good and bad is, so you just experience and learn. A level 5 is a psychedelic journey used to expand your mind and to learn more about yourself.  Its not a feel good drug at that stage, if youre trying to hit level 5 you must be ready for what its going to show you.  Just as if you were hitting DMT, you have to be open to what its going to show you.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: grizzlyadams]
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grizzlyadams said:
took me 2 hits of 100ug 1p-lsd which is slightly less potent than real LSD and 2 150ug of AL-LAD and i was most definitley in level 5, which will be an experience i will never forget.  And for people saying you often just wish for it to end at level 5, this is not true at all in y experience. At level 5 there is a lot of trouble distinguishing between what is good and what is bad.  You have no recollection of what good and bad is, so you just experience and learn. A level 5 is a psychedelic journey used to expand your mind and to learn more about yourself.  Its not a feel good drug at that stage, if youre trying to hit level 5 you must be ready for what its going to show you.  Just as if you were hitting DMT, you have to be open to what its going to show you.


beautifully explained, sounds exactly like an ego dissolving trip to me


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: AstralAndrew]
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I was googling experiences similar to mine and this thread popped up. About two weeks ago I took around 25 fat hits of L at a festival. It was amazing, although I was up for 2 days because I spaced them out in half strips. I was at the point where some things were hard to comprehend, but my head was very clear, and a minute seemed like it was an hour. I was watching the position of the sun utterly fascinated. It helped me form a better connection with my guitar as well, it was the first time I was able to tune by ear, and the first time I'd ever really put my pick down and used my hands to strum. I learned how to use my guitar to express how I feel, its amazing because I have such a newfound love for guitar. But, on the other hand, my friend (who drove me home) only ate 5 hits the night before, and was trying to fight me, told me he was mad at me for playing guitar, and was repetitively talking about werewolves and vampires. Now, almost 2 weeks later, he's been pouring water on the ground talking about demons, being super creepy towards girls, and I swear now he fully believes that werewolves and vampires are real. I'm scared my friend won't ever be the same, and after the car ride home, idk if I'll be able to look at him the same although I'm trying my hardest.
LSD Isn't for everyone. My friend was even experienced in taking more that what he had. Be careful trying to get to that "5th level", you may not be able to handle it.

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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: WeAreMushroom]
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WeAreMushroom said:
Quote:
My friend who dosed 2mg too on accident was ready to take his clothes off because he was Jim Morrison.



:rofl:

This is exactly what it's like to be on 2mg+. I remember throwing my only pair of shoes in a lake because they reminded me of my father. Then I threw our picnic blanket in the lake. I remember the police looking confused at my bare feet and asking me, "Do you have any shoes?"

I started laughing hysterically and said no.



Some people may react that way, I took 1.5 mg twice, 2 mg once and 2.2 mg once. I have never ever in my life had the sudden desire to strip naked and preach about godliness or anything like that. Now, I don't say that to contradict your statement @wearemushroom, I think though, that since I have tripped often in the past, and have really built up the dosage (tolerance may be a factor sometimes, sometimes not as I do manage to go 2 weeks and only dose once regardless of what some people think)
I do wonder if perhaps its a change in my brain chemistry or the fact that I have been slowly upping the dose to where the effects are more manageable. Ie I didn't go out one day and say I'm gonna eat 22 hits, I took 5, then 10, etc


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Re: How many hits of acid does it take to reach level5 [Re: fractalsybolism]
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fractalsybolism said:
I have seen 3 hits of 130 microgarms put people almost at that point.

+5 is not exactly a fun time out.  It's supposed to tear you apart and often leaves you praying for it to end.

What are you a fucking yogi?  Think you can handle some acids?  Don't fuck around is what I am saying.  There are psychedlics that fit on a blotter that could destroy you way beyond acid.  For example.  DOC could scare the most avid tripper into oblivion on less-than a quarter inch of paper.  Acid is no less serious if you get silly about your doses.

Plus 4 basically means tripping your fucking brains out where you can't see.  They made an extra level so you know what it means to lose any concept of reality.

People never liked salvia for example.  A good few inhalations of 10-20x would have put you at a +5 for a short while.  People don't like that.  God help you if you understood what it even means and end up in that place for 8 hours.

Anyone can overdose if they want to.



I believe you cant reach level 5 with just LSD alone. Its in lsd's nature to need something in combination to spark its true level 5 potential


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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