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You don't have the right to NOT be offended.
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your thoughts on this statement.

How can you argue with it?

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Maybe i'm missing something but your statement seems like nonsense to me.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: Icelander]
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I know it seems like a double negative or I can't believe its not butter, but just think it through slowly.

What right do you have, to not be offended?

I think once the concept is grasped, you understand how petty your emotions and other peoples words or actions affect you so deeply.

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Yes, true, there is no constitutional guarantee against someone encroaching on your delicate sensibilities. Strictly speaking, I agree. On the other hand, you have a constitutional right to be offended and protest against that which you find objectionable. It works both ways. You can be offensive, but don't be surprised when others are, well, offended.

We're really talking about "political correctness" are we not?


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No; truth, being alive, was not halfway between anything. It was only to be found by continuous excursions into either realm, and though proportion is the final secret, to espouse it at the outset is to insure sterility.

Only connect...

Edited by quillini (05/03/06 12:02 AM)

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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:what:

It's saying that the right you do have is to only be offended. That's what starts many an argument.

:what:


:peace: :heart:


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Ahuwale ka nane huna.

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Oh, butter.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: Icelander]
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i love your sig dude...its captivating.

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: XsXs]
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What provokes this?

I would say you have a right not to be harrassed....

There is no real criteria for being "offended" and if it happens it happens, but you should definitely have the right to be left alone by those who would wish to elicit the offense response by deliberately seeking you out and messing with you.

For example lets say you went up to a nun and started yelling huge strings of profanities to mess with her. That's not right. But let's say you are using profanities with your friends and the nun just happens to hear and get upset, that's different.

are we talking about laws or philosophical issues?


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: quillini]
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i think the statement poorly expresses the idea it's trying to convey. it techinially means the only right you have is to be offended which doesn't make much sense. i think you're trying to say is that you don't have the right to live in a nation 100% free of material you might take offence too. if that's what you're trying to say then i agree with this:


quillini said:
Yes, true, their is no constitutional guarantee against someone encroaching on your delicate sensibilities. Strictly speaking, I agree. On the other hand, you have a constitutional right to be offended and protest against that which you find objectionable. It works both ways. You can be offensive, but don't be surprised when others are, well, offended.

We're really talking about "political correctness" are we not?



yes, good point. i often see people become infuriated when others take offence to what they say and claim they have the right to say whatever they want and its your own fault if you let it offend you. what these people dont realize is that the people who find what you say offensive, also have free speech and they also have the right to be offended and protest. it goes both ways.

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: porcupine]
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meh.... I was getting at how people who are offended are usually very serious about the offense, and how correct and righteous they KNOW that they are on the subject, to the point that they would let a dissenting opinion create such frustration and somewhat violent tendencies within them.

The self-absorbed demeanor that an offended assumes when two opposing realities connect.... be the offense deliberate or not.

I remember hearing once someone say (and they might have gotten this from somewhere else) "I find you offensive"... to which someone replied "and I find you easily offended".

It was beautiful IMO. Like someone was forcing their reality and perception upon someone else and then that person responded by doing the same.... but he did it in such a way that it was obvious what he was doing.

in conclusion.... LOL.... offended = self-absorbed

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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your statement is a double negative. but i agree with the concept, depending on the situation.


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No statements made in any post or message by myself should be construed to mean that I am now, or have ever been, participating in or considering participation in any activities in violation of any local, state, or federal laws. All posts are works of fiction.

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: kotik]
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i don't really think offended = self absorbed.

I can easily see how one might find your avatar offensive, for example.

Not a mushroom user, but perhaps someone of a different background, if they came accross a girl with bouncing bosoms for no good reason.

Not tasteful, not artistic....... exploiting a woman's body.

but then again my avatar has captain kirk and spock kissing... which i find to be a funny concept.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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"Rights" are simply an artificial construct to find moral purpose in the universe.


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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: Silversoul]
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won't we eventually give the universe moral purpose when we stop defiling it so badly by living the way we currently do?

we make the universe how it is...... we don't even have to eat meat anymore.

we don't have to have wars. we don't have to dumb people down through mass media. we could have another renaissance. we could even ascend and evolve into more peaceful and altruistic beings....

what then is this universe? No longer so cold and hostile, because the only thing we know about the universe is the realities that we have created through power and control.

power and control will lead to destruction and decay.... greed will lead to a barren planet...... we don't know an thing about the universe we only know the reality we co-author with everyone else.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

Edited by leery11 (05/03/06 11:10 AM)

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Huh, I have to be offended about all and everything ? Oh damned. I think I will die of either a nervous breakdown or a heart attack :wink:


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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This statement did not make much sense at first, but when I re-worded it as a question "do others have the right to behave in ways which you find offensive?" it all became clear. :grin:

Our expectation does tend to be that others should not offend us, but this does not translate into a "right" not to be offended.

Since we choose whether or not to take offense, being offended is our responsibility. The only "right" we have is to express our personal preferences about others' behavior.  If many people agree with us, we might legislate against such offensive behavior, and then we'll have legal recourse in the future.

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: SneezingPenis]
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I think being offended is a choice. If you get offended by some information you receive, it's your choice to interpret the information as offensive and get all hot n bothered.

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: Zekebomb]
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Yes indeedy. We make these choices everyday and often make them differently on different days.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: Icelander]
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Or at different times during the same day!  I'm much more likely to take offense when I'm hungry and/or tired, when I'm in a hurry, or when I'm in the midst of doing something I don't really want to do.  At these times, my emotional resilience is low, my rationality is out to lunch, and I take things more personally. :tongue:

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Re: You don't have the right to NOT be offended. [Re: Veritas]
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Oh I know darling, I know. :shitstorm: :angrydog:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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