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Re: Subjective v. Objective Reality [Re: Adamist]
    #1261606 - 01/30/03 11:31 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

joshua i understand what your saying man. i sensed that on my last trip.


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Re: Subjective v. Objective Reality [Re: Joshua]
    #1261965 - 01/30/03 01:50 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

The purpose of subjective reality is to experience a polarized (right and wrong) state of being.

When we can integrate these polarities, and experience as a whole unit, rather than as a fragmented, individualized consciousness.. we experience objective reality... that which is eternally connected and has no good or evil, only what is... all things coming from the same source and working together in harmony to create growth and learning.

By living in subjective reality, pulling ourselves to the cosmic insight level every once in a while can shed major light on our subjective experiences. Soon the veils grow thin, and dissolve, leaving us with a profound sense of inner wisdom as we come to realize the subjective reality was but an illusion, another lesson on our path through evolution.


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Re: Subjective v. Objective Reality [Re: Joshua]
    #1262134 - 01/30/03 03:00 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Objective reality is when you truly know what's is right and what is wrong.

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Re: Subjective v. Objective Reality [Re: Joshua]
    #1263663 - 01/31/03 12:04 AM (18 years, 8 months ago)

Apparently when you trip your attention broadens so that you can take in more information. Usually you are more selective and your filters that are guided by what is important to whatever you are trying to achieve, what is salient, what is consistent with what you already believe etc guide how you experience the environment. So in a way you could argue that you are more objective while tripping. Though I agree with Silversoul in that I don't think you can be truly objective.


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Re: Subjective v. Objective Reality [Re: Shroomism]
    #1266766 - 01/31/03 09:31 PM (18 years, 8 months ago)

"When we can integrate these polarities, and experience as a whole unit, rather than as a fragmented, individualized consciousness.. we experience objective reality... that which is eternally connected and has no good or evil, only what is... all things coming from the same source and working together in harmony to create growth and learning."

This all made sense to me until, "...create growth and learning."

These are very subjective terms and do not fit well with, "...has no good or evil, only what is... "

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