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InvisibleZylo
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Something that might make you question reality....
    #550916 - 02/14/02 07:22 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Take a look at these eyes. And tell me how many eyes are there.

At first glance, most of you will say "That's easy, there are 2...

I will beg to differ, I see 3 eyes.

Put your face within a foot of the monitor (roughly), now, go crosseyed, and you can slowly move back. Now if you did this correctly, you will see 3 eyes.



Now, I ask you, is that 3rd eye really there? It must be there if we can see it right? Right???

How can I see 3 eyes if there aren't 3 eyes on the screen? How can you see 2 eyes if there are 3 on the screen?

Are there even any eyes there at all???? Which answer is real? Think careful before answering. If 3 eyes not there, we wouldn't be able to see it right?

Well, I can see 3 eyes....


Think of this. What is reality?

If reality is something we can see, then there are definatley 3 eyes in that picture.

If Reality is something we can physically touch, there are NO eyes on the screen since you can't "touch" any of them......

How do you define what reality is, if I have just eliminated things you can physicaly touch and things you can see.

Hmm.... What do you think? I would love to hear all your opinions!

I'll post what I consider a solution to this tomorrow night after a few posts.


Edited by Zylo (02/14/02 07:47 AM)


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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: Zylo]
    #550921 - 02/14/02 07:27 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

What eyes?


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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: Zylo]
    #551089 - 02/14/02 11:52 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

I can see 4 eyes...



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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: Zylo]
    #551101 - 02/14/02 12:04 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

"Hmm.... What do you think?"

i think your eyes get crossed


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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: Zylo]
    #551107 - 02/14/02 12:13 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Reality is not "real", its is only an interpretation. There is no "right" and "wrong" reality, but it is right for whoever is observing it. If you alter your brain you can alter your reality, but nobody can tell you that one is right and the other wrong, they are just different interpretations.


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Re: Something that might make you question reality [Re: Zylo]
    #551118 - 02/14/02 12:20 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

When you cross your eyes the pic will duplicate and you'll see four eyes, if you slowlly uncross your eyes the rigth eye of the left pic will cross the left eye of the right pic in the center of your visual field, now try to overlay one eye onto the other so they make just one single eye (3 eyes), the tricky part is to relax and focus the center of the overlayed eye, once focused and if you keep relaxed you'll be able to move your eyes and apreciate only the image of the centered eye or the region inside the eye, you'll will see two extra eyes from both sides but they will seem a bit vanished and all the rest of the monitor or visual field will be defocused.
....Reality it's what you make of it. If you drive your energy and focus an objective your reality will be made with that objective in mind. The question is , wich is the limit point of our understanding of reality ? Our mind can pay us some tricks, i consider this a capacity developed by our race, the power to control our attention and focus, have in mind that i also consider the philosophycal fact as a valid one, the need to explain reality is ancient and this lesson is a lesson to make you question "what's really reality?", but your using only a small % of your brain, so this monkey still has alot to learn.

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Re: Something that might make you question reality [Re: MAIA]
    #551135 - 02/14/02 12:47 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

i also saw 4


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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: Zylo]
    #551464 - 02/14/02 05:28 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

There are no eyes, just phosphorus dust being lit up with an electon beam. Thats all.


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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: skaMariaPastora]
    #551783 - 02/14/02 09:56 PM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Reality is not "real", its is only an interpretation. There is no "right" and "wrong" reality, but it is right for whoever is observing it. If you alter your brain you can alter your reality, but nobody can tell you that one is right and the other wrong, they are just different interpretations.

i disagree
you are correct in that memories can be molded by ones mindstate, and moods and feelings influence and alter the conscious experience
but there is a reality
id i jump off of a 40 story building, it doesnt matter how i interpret what is going on, i will hit the ground and die
we are all tied to the same "laws of nature" although you can perceive events and sensations (time) completely different from someone else


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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: Lallafa]
    #551964 - 02/15/02 12:43 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Yeah I guess that's true. There's no denying falling out of a 40 story building.

I guess you can think of it in less concrete events. When you observe a phenomenon you make sense of it in your mental framework by relating it to prior events in your memory. And since everyone has different memories and ways of looking at things, two people can interpret identical events vastly differently. Not in terms of whether you died or not, but as to their feelings about it. For example, maybe someone who is seriously depressed could view your suicide as an escape from a hellish life and overall a good thing. Another perfectly happy person might see it as a horrible waste of a life.

Maybe that's a bad example but that's kind of what I was talking about. Every person's view on reality is correct for them because if you lived their exact life and had the same memories with which you interpret events then you would see reality in the same way as they do.


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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: skaMariaPastora]
    #552108 - 02/15/02 03:09 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Every person's view on reality is correct for them because if you lived their exact life and had the same memories with which you interpret events then you would see reality in the same way as they do.

Indeed!


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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: ]
    #552120 - 02/15/02 03:21 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

But it wouldnt necessarily be reality would it.


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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: missulena]
    #552148 - 02/15/02 04:09 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Not necessarily


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Re: Something that might make you question reality.... [Re: ]
    #552166 - 02/15/02 04:53 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

"Every person's view on reality is correct for them because if you lived their exact life and had the same memories with which you interpret events then you would see reality in the same way as they do."

That's subjectivism, of course everybody has a different interpretation of reality but it does not explain reality itself.
I consider this statment incorrect, as an example, if what you're saying is true then if two different persons watch the same movie, they will see the same images and sounds and at the end both will have the same view and opinion about the movie, well they don't. If i could integrate someones memories i would certainly see things in a diferent way, i would pay attention to other details on that reality, as it is, one thing is reality itself, other is how you understand that reality.

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Edited by MAIA (02/15/02 05:06 AM)


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