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InvisibleLos_Pepes
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Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true.
    #4595674 - 08/29/05 06:34 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Canada officially stayed out of the war, but was in fact the fourth largest contributor to the attack on Iraq after the US, the UK and Australia, ahead of most members of Bush's coalition.

Three Canadian warships equipped with surface to air missiles and anti-submarine capability were escorting the US fleet that fired Tomahawk missiles into Iraqi cities. Canadian officers occupied offices of CENTCOM in Doha Qatar, planning the logistical details of escorting these ships.

US troop transport planes carried the invading army over Canadian air space thanks to the Canadian governments offer of over-flight privileges and refueling at the US Air Force at Gander airport. Canada was one of the countries on Colin Powell's list of countries that did not want to be mentioned in regard to their support for the war.


March 20, 2004

One year after the invasion, Iraq is in ruins. The illegal occupation continues. Insurgents launch daily attacks against Americans and any Iraqis seen as collaborators. Unexploded ordnance from cluster bombs continue to kill civilians. The rate of civilian deaths was such that by December the US prohibited Iraqi health ministry authorities from counting the dead. Hospitals are in worse repair than during the sanctions. Efforts by the UNEP to study the levels of depleted uranium radiation remain blocked by the US administration. The oil fields however are secure.

Canada is currently spending $10 million for the RCMP to train Iraqi police in Jordan. This training represents a defacto acceptance of the illegal takeover. These police will effectively operate as functionaries of the quisling administration running Iraq, providing security for the illegal occupiers, and prime targets for insurgents. Already 600 Iraqi police have been killed. With even greater cynicism, Paul Martin has expressed interest in Canadian firms bidding on Iraqi reconstruction contracts, a "privilege" granted by Bush at a meeting with Martin in January. Not only is this a crass attempt to exploit a major war crime, it is also illegal. Iraq's Constitution outlaws the privatization of key state assets, and bars foreigners from owning Iraqi firms. The Hague Regulations of 1907 state that an occupying power must respect "unless absolutely prevented, the laws in force in the country". Canadian involvement in reconstruction contracts would violate international law and contravene Canada's official stance of non- involvement in the US-led invasion.


http://hfxpeace.chebucto.org/_html/iraq_history.html


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: Los_Pepes]
    #4595862 - 08/29/05 07:26 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: Los_Pepes]
    #4598563 - 08/30/05 12:00 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry...Imust have missed the part where Canada was actually involved in the war...maybe you could outline that part for me.

OMG...Canada has ships with Anti aircraft and anti-sub capabilites? maybe someone forgot to mention in that article that Iraq doesn't have an airforce anymore or EVER had subs. They could have been fishing Traulers for all it mattered...

As for the RCMP training Iraqi police...how is that supporting the war? That is simply trying to support stability.


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: Rono]
    #4598574 - 08/30/05 12:09 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I also liked the part about Canadian warships "escorting" a US battle fleet....

Since when has the US needed Canadian "escort" for their fleet? :lol:


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: trendal]
    #4599033 - 08/30/05 03:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

OMG...youre one of a kind...really

Canada trains Iraqi police to help bring stable conditions to the region. I also don't see whats wrong with Canada bidding on reconstruction contracts..that's what Canada does, we help the poor in need.


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: Los_Pepes]
    #4599109 - 08/30/05 03:39 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Great_Satan?


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: Anisotropic]
    #4599123 - 08/30/05 03:45 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Los_Pepes here is a perfect example of what happens to you when you stop doing drugs.

So roll up a spliff, light it, and chill out.


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: Rono]
    #4599131 - 08/30/05 03:46 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Rono said:
As for the RCMP training Iraqi police...how is that supporting the war? That is simply trying to support stability.




Is Iraq more stable now than it was before Saddam was removed?


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4599158 - 08/30/05 03:53 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

MagicalMystery said:
Quote:

Rono said:
As for the RCMP training Iraqi police...how is that supporting the war? That is simply trying to support stability.




Is Iraq more stable now than it was before Saddam was removed?




Not at all..considering that 3 generations of Iraqis were exposed to war & mass violence it wont be for a long time.


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4599441 - 08/30/05 05:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Is Iraq more stable now than it was before Saddam was removed?




Nope...is that the Canada's fault? or the fault of the country that demolished Iraq?


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: Tien]
    #4599673 - 08/30/05 06:13 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

How many generations of Germans were exposed to years of destructive warfare?


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: Rono]
    #4599697 - 08/30/05 06:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Is Iraq more stable now than it was before Saddam was removed?




If they're lucky they'll never be that stable again


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: Rono]
    #4599703 - 08/30/05 06:20 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

OK, was Nazi Germany "stable"? Isn't a bit of unstability to remove a tyrant worth it?


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4599716 - 08/30/05 06:22 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

High five


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4599777 - 08/30/05 06:36 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

depends on whether that tyrant has annexed most of Europe and is going toward Russia...


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: GringoLoco]
    #4599784 - 08/30/05 06:38 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

....where he will get beat back like the Kraut bitch he is.


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: GringoLoco]
    #4599789 - 08/30/05 06:39 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

It depends? So if Hitler just gassed das juden in Germany, that would make it somehow better? They'd be less deserving of our intervention?


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4599810 - 08/30/05 06:46 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Rephrase the question? Are you saying that the holocaust was sufficient for intervention? I believe so, but it would be a lie to say that the American public agreed back in 1941. Were Was the opression of the Iraqis to the extent of the Holocaust. No. Was Saddam the massive threat to the world that Hitler was? Nope.

Bah, grade B bad guys just aren't worth the tradeoff we get for removing them.


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: GringoLoco]
    #4600059 - 08/30/05 07:35 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with your final sentiment. The main issue that I have with the 'liberator' concept is that it's being done at such high taxpayer expense.


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Re: Canada IS involved in the Iraq war! Yes its true. [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4622164 - 09/05/05 01:11 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Canada is a member of the coalition and is as equally involved as Bush is in Iraq.

http://massgraves.info/




Edited by Los_Pepes (09/05/05 01:15 PM)


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