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OfflineLearyfan
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Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil
    #1608688 - 06/04/03 07:03 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Story

I don't understand how Bush is letting Wolfowitz get away with this.

Will he be fired?







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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil [Re: Learyfan]
    #1608694 - 06/04/03 07:05 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

As long as the Guardian is the only source reporting this, then no one will really care.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil [Re: Learyfan]
    #1608713 - 06/04/03 07:09 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I hate to say "I told you right-wingers so" but...no actually I don't hate it at all....I'm revelling in the moment. An actual member of the administration is admitting it IS "All about the oil"... my mission here is complete .


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil [Re: Rono]
    #1608730 - 06/04/03 07:12 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Somehow, I suspect that even this won't affect Bush's popularity. America hasn't gotten outraged at anything their government did in a good long while, even while being screwed over more than they have in years.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil [Re: Learyfan]
    #1608758 - 06/04/03 07:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Apparently Wolfowitz has lost his patience with dimplomacy and bureaucracy--there are several more major wars to hold to achieve the neoconservative project for world supremacy ( http://www.newamericancentury.org/ ), and he could be right that it's unrealistic to think they can keep finding "hysterical" motives to win domestic and international support, war after war. Better to put everything on the table and hope there are enough U.S. citizens who go along. That way the same reason--economic significance ("we just have no choice") will serve every time.

And to hell with the rest of the world. We don't need them, they need US, man!


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil [Re: hongomon]
    #1608774 - 06/04/03 07:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Next stop...Saudi Arabia.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war was about oil [Re: Rono]
    #1608828 - 06/04/03 07:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I have to say, this surprised even me. Even I didn't think this war could actually be ALL about oil, but apparently it was.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: Learyfan]
    #1608923 - 06/04/03 08:16 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

any other sources for this info?


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: Learyfan]
    #1608949 - 06/04/03 08:23 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Isn't the Guardian the paper that even Alpo laughs at?

Lets see it in a more credible source with another White House member confirming.

Or do "libbies" believe everything they read without confirmation?


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1608961 - 06/04/03 08:26 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

"Or do "libbies" believe everything they read without confirmation?"
Hello!! What am I?


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1608969 - 06/04/03 08:29 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I've searched other news sources and none of them other than the Guardian have this story, so I'll withhold judgement on this one.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: silversoul7]
    #1608989 - 06/04/03 08:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm... fishy. Not the most objective news source ya know. Well I'll go and try to verify this.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1608992 - 06/04/03 08:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I think you're thinking of a different paper. The Guardian has to be the best newspaper in the UK.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: Revelation]
    #1608995 - 06/04/03 08:39 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Come on, man! Even I can see their liberal bias.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: 1stimer]
    #1609004 - 06/04/03 08:42 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

"Or do "libbies" believe everything they read without confirmation?"
Hello!! What am I?



1. I didn't respond to you.
2. Libbies is in quotes indicating a good natured poke at libbies in general.

Therefore.... it doesn't matter what you are.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: silversoul7]
    #1609043 - 06/04/03 08:56 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Good idea, actually. Anyone here read German?

The latest comments were made by Mr Wolfowitz in an address to delegates at an Asian security summit in Singapore at the weekend, and reported today by German newspapers Der Tagesspiegel and Die Welt.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: hongomon]
    #1609052 - 06/04/03 08:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

My German's a little rusty, but I might be able to handle it.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: silversoul7]
    #1609061 - 06/04/03 09:01 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It is a left wing paper, but:

"Let's look at it simply. The most important difference between North Korea and Iraq is that economically, we just had no choice in Iraq. The country swims on a sea of oil."

That doesn't leave much room for bias, IMO.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: Revelation]
    #1609093 - 06/04/03 09:15 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

If it wasn't for an American named Ford, all these mid-east royal fuckers would be sitting on sand selling sand and eating sand to survive. Thanks to Ford and the write bros we put these dudes on the map and made them rich. And as usual we feed em and they bite our hand.


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Re: Wolfowitz: Iraq war WAS about oil [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1609129 - 06/04/03 09:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I didn't say that I believe it 100%. In fact I had a hard time believing it because it should be a major story.

I agree with Revelation though, that if Wolfowitz was quoted accurately, then that doesn't leave much room for bias.




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