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    #398221 - 09/19/01 01:34 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: zero]
    #398297 - 09/19/01 03:11 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, datura is active when dried. The seeds hold the highest concentration of alkaloids, but the entire plant is active.

Before even considering experimenting with this plant I would HIGHLY recommend reading ALL the information the Lycaeum and Erowid, reading many trip reports, and only then proceeding with EXTREME caution.

Datura is NOT fun and is EXTREMELY dangerous. The effects are best described as delerium. The difference between an active dose and a fatal dose is very small, and as alkaloid concentration varies a lot between plants you can never know how strong your plants are before experimenting with them.

Take care (I really mean it)

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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: Phyl]
    #398319 - 09/19/01 03:42 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

yes, I have read all the info at erowid and am alittle afraide of trying datura
it seems like noone has tried low doeses of it, excuse my spp' it's allways been bad.
I just want to know if what I have is datura so I don't die.
thanks for your concern. not spelled right


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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: zero]
    #398374 - 09/19/01 04:49 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Here is the plant in question from zero. I can tell you right now zero, that you do indeed have a datura plant. Its not D. stramonium/jimson weed, and I'm far from a datura expert, but it looks like D. inoxia(sp?)








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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: Lizard King]
    #398379 - 09/19/01 05:01 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

lizard king, Is the plant in the pic psycoactive???? bad sp I know but I can't help it...
the plant in pic is drying now so I need to know if it's worth saving.
I know that the plant in quuestion might be poisiones, but I just want an ID.
thanks for your time.
ps
I have very bad sp.
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thanks for your time

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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: zero]
    #398381 - 09/19/01 05:04 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

the plant in the pic is growing from a old pile of lawn clippings.
the plant is in the state of maine.

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thanks for posting the pic, lizard king

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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: zero]
    #398543 - 09/19/01 08:39 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not sure as to the exact specie of your datura, it looks to be Datura inoxia, but I don't think they are native to your area. Whatever specie it is, I can assure you it is definately datura, and it IS active. It will cause a day or two or three delerium along with what some people describe as "True hallucinations", its often so intense and overwhelming, that if you don't die of a toxic overdose of scopamine(sp?) you will wish you had.

Be careful, if used with great respect and with the right intent, it can be a very valuable teacher I hear. Read, read, read, and then read some more before you try this plant.


LK,

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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: zero]
    #398714 - 09/19/01 11:28 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Where do you plan on going when you take Datura?
Thats some shit you really need to be prepared for.



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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: Lizard King]
    #398953 - 09/20/01 07:23 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

That is one sinister looking plant, just seeing it gives me the heebie-jeebies.

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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: zero]
    #402068 - 09/23/01 08:58 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

what do you want with datura, kid? wanna get high, huh? if you feel like, just go for it. we talk afterwards...

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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: zero]
    #402078 - 09/23/01 09:10 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

dude. been there. toss that shit out the door and stick to shrooms and cacti. this shit is no fun, gives you an unbelievabe tolerance to over the counter cold remedies, so they won't work when you are sick, and generally makes you feel like shit. what the fuck for?



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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: tchyted]
    #402115 - 09/23/01 09:40 PM (22 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldnt eat it, from my understanding it is meant to be made into an ointment(flying ointment) then applied vaginaly or analy, hence witchs on broom sticks. But then who knows maybe eating it wont kill you.



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    #404481 - 09/26/01 02:17 AM (22 years, 5 months ago)

Did you guys know that Datura was used in medieval times as poison - i think that it is Atropine or something that maeks you trip and die at the same time, but dont quote me on that one. I knew a guy who made a tea of a different type of datura with a long, bell-shaped flower, and he was never the same again.. He got a weird twitch, a lazy eye and just withdrew from society completely - he also had a strange way of walking around talking to himself from that time on as well...Apparently he was hospitalised in the end, as those sitting for him, got really worried at the third day...



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Re: datura, please respomd anyone [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #405515 - 09/26/01 09:38 PM (22 years, 4 months ago)

It was said that using it would drive you permanently insane. Sometimes it was placed into food to kill people, if used in the right quantities it can definately killy you.

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