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 psilocyber
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 Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 
#397063 - 09/17/01 07:51 PM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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DarK_SavioR
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 Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#398570 - 09/19/01 09:08 PM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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170 bucks? Thats insane... does it do any tricks? heh, Nothing against it but I wouldn't pay that much. I wanna see the results to see how it compares to other setups. Do you have to fan or anything like that with that hydrapod? I'm gonna read up on it, but for $170 I could almost build 8 of my current automated setups. ($3 for 72qt container, $2 for hose, $2 for hose connectors, $15 for cool mist humidifier, and a few bucks for plexi glass... still putting it togethor, heh. Need my plexi glass and I'm waiting on my humidifier I got for $8 on ebay to come in) I'm cheap, but thats a good thing ;)
Looking forward to see the results... curious.
Cool, calm, just like my mom. With a couple of valium inside her palm.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: DarK_SavioR]
#398576 - 09/19/01 09:16 PM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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dar, or you could just case some substrate in the bottum of a styrofoam cooler, expose itto 12 hours of flourescent light per day and air it out for a once or twice daily misting. mcman is a clever conartist.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: holographic mind]
#398592 - 09/19/01 09:32 PM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its a completletly automated cake system! Come on! What more could you ask for?
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: phrozendata]
#398599 - 09/19/01 09:38 PM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'd probably ask for a refund after finding out I paid $170 for a 5 gallon bucket, fish tank pump, and about a buck worth of molded plastic.... oh ya, and the timer ; ) Oh well, everybody's out to make a buck anymore. I guess its the consumer's responsibility to do research before purchasing stuff like that
Cool, calm, just like my mom. With a couple of valium inside her palm.
Long Live The Free Spore Ring!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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Vitamin C chase, kill the taste. You can tell its nasty by the look on my face.
Ralphster44 & The FSR!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 *DELETED* [Re: DarK_SavioR]
#398662 - 09/19/01 10:29 PM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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Jared
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#398738 - 09/20/01 12:04 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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I'm quite interested in how this comes along... I'm wondienr if those pellets are actually causing a reverse effect on the cake. The higher ones being dry and wicking moisture out of the cake.. (Like that makes any sense) The fact that the pod doesn't have built in heating or cooling is the thing that really suprised me.. Yes, 170$ is alot for what you get, but its your choice to buy it or not. If you don't want it, don't buy it. IT's as simple as that.
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DarK_SavioR
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: jheck]
#398740 - 09/20/01 12:10 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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I like to criticize first.... I'm only half serious when I'm mouthing off ; ) Didn't mean to ruffle your feathers. Did you buy one or something?
Cool, calm, just like my mom. With a couple of valium inside her palm.
Long Live The Free Spore Ring!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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Vitamin C chase, kill the taste. You can tell its nasty by the look on my face.
Ralphster44 & The FSR!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: Jared]
#398741 - 09/20/01 12:10 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah and if people want to say why its a ripoff, they can list the reasons why, even if it is stupid.
 Time for a cigarette.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: CACA]
#398746 - 09/20/01 12:18 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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heh, sorry... I hate when people go after vendors with negative opinions, guess I'm a hipicrit : )~ I didn't know that thing cost so much until just then and the thread was in front of me to post my opinion, so I did..... if this stuff was in consumer reports, that definately wouldn't be a best buy though ; )
Cool, calm, just like my mom. With a couple of valium inside her palm.
Long Live The Free Spore Ring!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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Vitamin C chase, kill the taste. You can tell its nasty by the look on my face.
Ralphster44 & The FSR!
All thats stated above is for humor and a lie!!
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psilocyber
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#398894 - 09/20/01 04:58 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#398909 - 09/20/01 05:37 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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people dont charge for what it is, they charge for what it does or can do....
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NDK
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: 40oz]
#398927 - 09/20/01 06:13 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah so surely it is a waste of money then. A 5 buck storage container with a hole in it + a cheapo humidifier will do exactly the same thing - let cakes grow without any human action. I still use my first setup when I do cakes and I only open it to pick.
I suppose the the dome thing looks cool but can be picked up at a garden centre for literally less than ?1.
Still, if you have the money, why not get something ready made that works.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: NDK]
#399010 - 09/20/01 10:09 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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I don't want to offend anyone here but I have to ask why the reason you are you using such a sorry cake for this test? I have seen healthier looking cakes than that one thrown out for garbage. Why aren't you using a healthy cake I wonder? Was that the only one you had to choose from? That one looks pretty sad from what I can see. I don't think it will do anything in there. but that's just my opinion.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#399032 - 09/20/01 11:08 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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NuShroomPharmerII
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Post deleted by users_request [Re: psilocyber]
#399055 - 09/20/01 11:31 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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NDK
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NuShroom - don't take offence but are you getting something out of all this? It's just that linked post sounds like an advert for McMann. Even accepting that you did manage to spend "12 hours and $125" on making your copy one has to ask why the hell you didn't just change the design so it was way cheaper!? Those domes are just vegetable bells and come in packs of 3 for $5 at my local garden centre, 5 gallon buckets aren't much more.
You can humidify a $5 storage box with wet perlite for virtuallty nothing and sit the cakes on it if you believe that hydration thru contact theory. You want air movement? You use an air pump. You feel richer you use an ultrasonic humidifier which does air and moisture all in one. Timers are pennies from a chain store.
Personally I don't buy into the importance of all that air entrainment stuff for cakes - I mean have you actually used a CO2 sensor to see what the levels get like for 10 cakes in a given box volume? For a big commercial casing then sure the CO2 is gonna sit on it and need blowing away but cakes are protuberances and CO2 isn't going to sit on them. Some decent airflow thru the box is likely to keep the levels just fine.
What about the temperature? It isn't fully automated unless it controls that too. Temperature is one of the mst important factors and this design just ignores it.
My friend (who loves to complicate things) uses a plastic fish tank with 3" of water in it, a 200W fish-tank heater, holes drilled just above the water level (for CO2 removal) and a big old air pump. The cakes sit on a breeze block which is a pretty good wick if you want wet contact. This, plus the light in the hood on a timer, keeps them at 85F, c. 100% humidity, full of clean air and lit for 12 on 12 off. The total cost is about 1/2. Totally automated. Personally I reckon he's wasting his time , seeing as you have to open the thing regularly to crop.
I don't want to put people off if they want to buy one for pure convenience but I don't believe it is any better than a much, much cheaper design. Hell, if you really want increased yields just learn how to case some rye and stick it in a storage bin with a few holes in it - it whips the ass of cakes no matter how you humidify them.
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: CACA]
#399338 - 09/20/01 04:52 PM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes, here are my reasons.
1. The price is enough to purchase several sheets of plywood, plexiglass and humidifiers to build an extremly nice setup.
2. From what I've seen it's nothing but a 5 gallon bucket with hydroponic rockwool pebbles (or whatever those are) a fishtank bubbler a timer, and a (appearingly so) flimsy plastic bubble.
3. It doesn't have a cooling device or heating device, or internal light.
4. Refer to reason #1.
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#399570 - 09/20/01 09:51 PM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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psilocyber
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Re: Hydra-Pod test in progress... Round 2 [Re: psilocyber]
#399857 - 09/21/01 10:16 AM (23 years, 6 months ago) |
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